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Okay f**k this International rubbish, one of the biggest games in world football kicks off next Saturday at 5.30.

 

Utd's starting XI should be interesting and with Pool being hammered by West Ham, surely Rodgers opened a can of whoop ass and told them to get their shit together.

 

So I'm calling this an away win, surely you didn't think I was gonna say a Utd win :lol

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Im going to say 3-1 Liverpool. Benteke hatrick and a og from Lovren to start things off. Both teams to be down to 10 men by the end of the game as well.

 

Then Rogers RKO's Van Gaal outta nowhere for saying something. Just to go really out there with my prediction :lol:

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Seen that on twitter last night, along with some predictably comical tweets such as "who's not going to score for Man United now?!" :lol

 

It might actually improve the team depending on how Van Gaal sets up. I'm far from convinced with Rooney as the lone number 9 these days, not sure he's particularly effective in that role and would be better playing behind a striker. He comes so far deep to get involved that it leaves them with no fire power in the box and struggling for goals.

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We'll see on the Rooney front, it is strange that only the M.E.N. reported it and then other outlets copied them. I don't trust the M.E.N. or the Metro for that matter to give me concrete reporting, both papers are given away in the street after all.

 

On paper, with Coutinho, Sturridge and Henderson all being out you'd say United have the better line up and should win this game but the fact is a) its a grudge match only matched in recent years by the Derby for United and the Scouse Derby for Pool and b) both teams haven't clicked yet and are unsure what their best line up is.

 

I never predict a United game, its a superstition I've had since I was 10 and I did it once (1994 Cup Final against Chelsea, bet my brother we'd win by two or more and won a tenner, know my luck would be different the next time around), so I'm not going to say who I think will win but all I can say is that it will be a close game and I hope my boys come through for me.

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Awful first half, great second half. Should have finished 3-2 really but for that Blind clearance on the line and he was excellent today - neither he, Smalling or De Gea could do anything about that Benteke goal however - that was a cracker.

 

Blind and Martial's goals where quality as well but Memphis needs to take a lesson from Ashley Young for me. In the first half, Memphis brought the ball down and looked to go past the defender to the inside with that first touch - Young squared him up instead after taking him outside and then went through him and caused a problem that won the free kick from which United unlocked the door.

 

Memphis needs to learn to do that more, to be less predictable and he'll come good, Martial on the strength of that goal could be something special, but lets not get ahead of ourselves and Bastian was quality today in that midfield as well. Make no mistake about it though, we are still a pacey winger and a good striker away from being a top team.

 

But Liverpool where by and large poor, they let United boss that game and Rogers for me, if this continues, has to go. More and more it becomes apparent that that season where they came close was not due to Rogers brilliant management, it was down to that quartet of Sterling, Suarez, Sturridge and Gerrard.

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Hate to say it @Evil Gringo but i totally agree. Rogers doesnt look like a good manager. Benteke has flashes of brilliance but there is no service. Maybe once coutinho, henderson and lallana are back it will pick up. The defence was shocking today thou. Centrally we are so weak. Skrtl and lovren are not good together. Bring back sakho and see what happens.

 

Both teams have a long way to go by the looks of todays game. Passes went astray far too often. Shaw looks quality. Blind was immense. Bastian just oozes class.

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I've never thought Rodgers was a good manager, the way the team was set up at Swansea it would be hard to mess that up, you would have to go out of your way to hurt the system in place.

When he started at Liverpool suarez was tearing people apart and sort of carried Rodgers, now with Suarez gone it's all about his management which unfortunately for him and Liverpool he does not have a clue what he is doing in my opinion.

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His instance that the team try to play from the back is crazy, given the players he has and their lack of ability on the ball. A lot of the early momentum that built against them was due to giving the ball away and letting United into the game and that lack of momentum and control was something they never recovered.

 

I can see the advantages of building from the back if you have the right components, but just because Barca can doesn't mean Liverpool can.

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Rogers I think is on borrowed time. He was shaking last season and it wont be long before the Kop turns on him completely. We will hear that 3 of the normal midfield are out injured but a team with the history and high profile of liverpool should be able to cover 3 injuries. Look at his transfer record.

 

His successes that are still at the club are Sturridge, Coutinho, Lallana that were signed before this season. In his tenure he has bought 31 players spending £290 million. If you take out this summers spending he has bought 24 players spending £210 million.

 

This is not good reading for myself and other liverpool fans. He bought Allen (£15 million), Lambert (£4.5 million), Ings (no idea on this one actually), Borini (£10.4 million), Markovic (£19.8 million) but has never really given them a chance in the team.

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He'll point out that some of those where made by the committee (although he is a member of it) and not soley on him.

 

But what I agree with is that there is talent in what he has bought (well some of it) but he is not prepared to be flexible in his game plan or tactics to get the best out of them - he wants a square peg to go in a round hole and I'll be honest it is something LVG has done as well (Di Maria at Striker, Juanzaj behind the striker, Valencia at right back) and when you look at the money spent on Benteke and Ings (which could depending on the tribunal related to Ings be close to £50m combined) you'd think he'd play to their strengths.

 

That means directness, allowing Ings to feed off the big man like he did with Vokes at Burnley, play crosses in for Benteke to attack and play someone who will go out wide and is a natural there, not like Coutinho and Lallana who want to drift and come central leaving the full backs, one of whom is inexperienced exposed.

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