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Jayfunk? Is this your other account? Try not mashing the keyboard with your face next time, maybe you'll make some sense.

 

its a pity you know a lot but not a lot that matters. I have a wife and 5 kids (3 daughters). and I would rather lock them in a cage than let a pathetic worm touch them like yourself. try going out. I bet any money you still live with your parents... you do don't you.

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It's a pity you know neither. What you do to your kids is between you and the authorities. Would you like to put an actual monetary amount on how wrong you are? I suspect you don't you silly, silly man.

 

im not a man, im the legend, the icon, the show stopper......wait a minute that's shawn michaels.....I know as a father how much I love them and how much I will protect them that they will never have to spread theyre legs just to make a living. if they are in trouble I will try my hardest to make sure they get out of it. hookers do what they do because its easy money, that's all.

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(3 daughters). and I would rather lock them in a cage than let a pathetic worm touch them like yourself.
So, just to clarify, if one of your daughters said they had a new boyfriend and it was Megz, you would lock her in a cage rather than allow her to make her own choice and have a consensual relationship?

 

Do you live in the 1850's?

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I don't think it does become unrealistic, the question isn't about how dangerous being a prostitute is so using that as your answer to justify your position doesn't really work.

 

The question is which would you be happier (so comparative happiness, not your absolute approval) knowing, that your daughter is doing a job you find difficult to deal with but she is happy doing ( to me implying it is safe etc to any reasonable degree and no job is safe 100%) versus your daughter living a "respectable" life but being miserable.

 

You could change prostitute to stripper or porn star or glamour model without altering the real meaning of the question so much.

If this is a reply for me, I think you're missing my point. I'm not talking in regard to the original question, I'm directly answering/commenting on etz's comments...

 

So, just to clarify, if one of your daughters said they had a new boyfriend and it was Megz, you would lock her in a cage rather than allow her to make her own choice and have a consensual relationship?

 

Do you live in the 1850's?

He was being sarcastic in the heat of an argument. Come on people lets not get silly.

 

This topic was always going to create arguments. Lets at least try and keep it civil.

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If this is a reply for me, I think you're missing my point. I'm not talking in regard to the original question, I'm directly answering/commenting on etz's comments...

 

 

No, I know but I thought it was a good way of addressing the purpose of the original hypothetical question.

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An abusive husband scares me way more than a voluntary choice to be a hooker. Statistically speaking, she's probably safer as a corner girl than the wife of an abusive husband. Sure, I can deal with him, but you've got to know it's going on and battered spouses are good at hiding the evidence.

 

And to be clear, I'd be happy if she was happy. Would I be more happy if she was happy being a neuroscientist ? Sure. Would I rather she was a unhappy doing something else? No, I'm not a selfish piece of shit who is, for example, going to cage my kids for making choices I don't agree with. That's the Jospeh Fritz school of parenting, right there.

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An abusive husband scares me way more than a voluntary choice to be a hooker. Statistically speaking, she's probably safer as a corner girl than the wife of an abusive husband. Sure, I can deal with him, but you've got to know it's going on and battered spouses are good at hiding the evidence.

 

And to be clear, I'd be happy if she was happy. Would I be more happy if she was happy being a neuroscientist ? Sure. Would I rather she was a unhappy doing something else? No, I'm not a selfish piece of shit who is, for example, going to cage my kids for making choices I don't agree with. That's the Jospeh Fritz school of parenting, right there.

I think I'd take an occasional beating from an abusive husband over possible rape, beatings and HIV/AIDS from working as a hooker, but again, as I said in my last post neither situation is ideal and an abusive spouse can be removed.

 

And not being happy for your daughter being a hooker, even if she is ecstatic, doesnt make you a selfish piece of shit, it makes you normal.

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The question in and of itself is about understanding the rights of your daughters as adult human beings. Don't mistake the memories of their childhood with their adult choices. You made their choices when they were small, but they will make them when they are adults. If you continue to try to affect change or make choices for your daughters then they will just do exactly what they want to do anyway. If they do it with spite in the hearts then they will suffer but if they make choices from a position of love then you should be confident enough in your own parenting skills to allow them to make those choices for themselves. Your happiness is irrelevant. Teach them how to think, not what to think.
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I mean your last post is bullshit, not the debate. Like I said, it sounds very nice, but its nonsense.

 

Apart from when it's not, like when my mother defied her parents and had to get permission from the high court to marry my dad because she was only 19 (marriage in South Africa required parental consent or a court order if your were under 21 in those days) and her mother didn't like my dad.

 

My grandmother had to suck that and learn to accept it, or she'd have been cut out of our lives entirely. She eventually did though, she even came to think my dad was the best of her son-in-laws.

 

But, you know, think what you like, because you will anyway and you're always right...

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But, you know, think what you like, because you will anyway and you're always right...
:lol

 

I was reading down through your post and I was going to give you a regular reply, but then this last sentence cropped up and I just had to laugh. Laugh at your childish attitude. If you cant take other peoples opinions, regardless of how strong they come across, then you may as well f*ck off somewhere else on your own where nobody talks to you.

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:lol:

 

I was reading down through your post and I was going to give you a regular reply, but then this last sentence cropped up and I just had to laugh. Laugh at your childish attitude. If you cant take other peoples opinions, regardless of how strong they come across, then you may as well f*ck off somewhere else on your own where nobody talks to you.

 

I absolutely can take other peoples opinion, but debate is pointless between us because neither of us will ever really be swayed to the others opinion because we're just too far apart.

 

As to what I said, I didn't say I wasn't the same way as you, but bluntly that's exactly how you come across. And yes, we're both childish. Na na na na na na, ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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