Malaysia airlines plane crash part 2

[The Fury 65]

This was reported last night that a Malaysia airlines plane crashed. Only this time it has been shot down by either Ukraine or pro Russia groups. All 248 were killed including several people going to interational aids conference

 

So if the pro-Russians, who's weapons are being supplied by put in are responsible then shit could very well hit the fan.

[Shaun2J 127]

This is really going to get ugly.

 

The images are just sad, even with the explosion and impact on the ground, it seems like most of the luggage and people were still scattered all over the place.

[Guest Steely]

It's criminal what has happened here and someone has to be held accountable.

 

On a side note tho why would a commercial airliner fly through a conflict zone? Is this the norm?

[Guest bigmatt]

It's criminal what has happened here and someone has to be held accountable.

 

On a side note tho why would a commercial airliner fly through a conflict zone? Is this the norm?

 

I only caught a glimpse of the news last night but the reporter was saying that commercial airliners were thought to be safe at the heights they fly at, so a no-fly zone below 31,000 feet was put in place. The plane was apparently hit at 33,000 feet. It would also cost a lot more in fuel and time to go another route too.

 

FAKE EDIT: A quick search throws this up:

 

Investigators into Thursday's crash of Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -11.11% Flight 17 will scrutinize a decision by Ukrainian officials this week to set the height of their no-fly zone over conflict-torn eastern Ukraine to 32,000 feet—when many ground-to-air missiles can easily surpass 40,000 feet.

 

Flight 17 was flying around 33,000 feet over the restricted airspace before it crashed, officials said. After the crash, Ukrainian officials expanded the no-fly zone to all airspace above the region.

 

Investigators are going to want "to hear how they determined that the risk was acceptable. [ukrainian officials] should have done a formal risk assessment," said air-safety consultant John Cox, a former union crash investigator and safety official.

 

Still, Mr. Cox cautioned, it is understandable that a government would believe a 32,000-foot-restriction would be safe.

 

"There has never been an airliner shot down from a surface-to-air missile at this kind of altitude," he said. "The threat has always been a shoulder-fired missile from insurgents," which typically can't surpass 15,000 feet.

 

http://online.wsj.com/articles/height-of-ukraine-no-fly-zone-faces-scrutiny-1405639624?tesla=y&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303907904580035802944835936.html

[Guest raven]

More sad news.

[Maxximus 353]

Good timing and a nice little distraction from Isreal's ground and pound assault where they are straight wrecking niños everywhere.

 

Not saying it was a false flag, just saying it's impeccable timing. If I was saying it was a false flag(and it's not) I'd comment on the video of the actual crash and how there was no smoke plume before it hit the ground even thought it was hit by a missile at 30, 000 feet, or how there wasn't a mark(AGAIN) on the passports and in the video and the first passport they show the camera is of a little white girl. Not to mention that this EXACT TYPE OF PLANE went missing just a few months ago with the entire crew and passengers. Good thing this isn't a false flag, people might start talking.

 

DISCLAIMER: I'm just rambling people, don't get your panties in a bunch. I don't see things like other people do. It's probably some kind of mental disorder.

[Guest John Hancock]

It's actually pretty terrible timing for a false flag operation outside of the usual conspiracy theory logic that it's always a good time for a flag operation, and everything always is one.

[DC 536]

Good timing and a nice little distraction from Isreal's ground and pound assault where they are straight wrecking niños everywhere.

 

Not saying it was a false flag, just saying it's impeccable timing. If I was saying it was a false flag(and it's not) I'd comment on the video of the actual crash and how there was no smoke plume before it hit the ground even thought it was hit by a missile at 30, 000 feet, or how there wasn't a mark(AGAIN) on the passports and in the video and the first passport they show the camera is of a little white girl. Not to mention that this EXACT TYPE OF PLANE went missing just a few months ago with the entire crew and passengers. Good thing this isn't a false flag, people might start talking.

 

DISCLAIMER: I'm just rambling people, don't get your panties in a bunch. I don't see things like other people do. It's probably some kind of mental disorder.

Probably? :lol

[Maxximus 353]

My therapist says I'm healthy.

[Maxximus 353]

Rebel leader gives bizarre account of plane crash

 

MOSCOW (AP) — A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crash — suggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off.

 

The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that "a significant number of the bodies weren't fresh," adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.

 

More: denverpost.com~

 

 

As soon as I saw this thread I told myself I was gonna stay out of it. So much for that. The things I pointed out in my earlier post are just a few of the things being said around the tin foil community. Again, I'm not saying that I believe personally that this was a false flag. Regardless of the official story people died and it's a tragedy and someone or someones need to be held accountable. I just hope it doesn't end up being some massive international blame game where even more people end up being hurt.

 

F*ck, man, is this shit ever gonna end?

[Guest Boyo]

Regardless of the actual truth in this instance Maxxy, I do find your conspiracies very interesting.

 

What are "your people (:P)" making of the missing black box?

 

Cheers!

[Guest John Hancock]

Would that be the same Igor Girkin who openly admitted to shooting the plane down before he realised it was full of civilians?

 

Conspiracy theories are only interesting to me when they're creepy or original. The current trend of screaming either "FALSE FLAG!" or "ILLUMINATI SYMBOLISM" at literally everything that ever happens anywhere in the world is so dull. Give me a brainwashing or a disappearing boat or a CIA experiment over this repetitive shit any day.

[Maxximus 353]

I wouldn't call them "my people" but even they need love so I'll accept them into my bosom.

 

It all boils down to this being the last plane that went missing. How that really works, I dunno. I haven't really seen anything to do with a black box but, until today, my involvement has been pretty minor as far as the details go. The thread on the forum I frequent is already over 200 posts from yesterday.

 

I don't care to post the more outlandish theories here because folks like DC think they're my opinions. It's just a way to keep discussion going. I like to keep an open mind to ALL possibilities but I don't ignore facts just because of some silly personal opinion. If I think something and it's proven wrong, I always admit to being wrong.

 

I'm not sure, Johnny, I haven't even heard of the guy before I read this article. It has my attention now though. I'm so burned out on the Illuminati thing too. It's total bullshit. I like the creepy original conspiracy stuff more than the mainstream "FALSE FLAG PSYOP!" stuff too. It's people like that who give a lot of CTrs a bad name and make us all look like retards when we talk about anything outside of the official story.