WWE RAW Discussion Thread - July 21, 2014 from Miami, FL (#1104)

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When

United States: LIVE, Monday Night, July 21, at 8/7c on the USA Network

United Kingdom: Tuesday Morning, July 22, at 12AM on SkySportsHD3

 

Venue

AmericanAirlines Arena in Miami, FL

 

Confirmed Matches/Events

 

Flo Rida to Appear as the RAW Guest Star

 

Battleground Fallout

[dsrchris 190]

Flo Rida? Well, this is another episode I won't be watching...

[Guest Yodahew]

Lesnar and sting to appear?

[Guest Matt Black]

That's the wonder of WWE these days, Flo Rida announced as guest star, and there may be some of those wrestling matches that we occasionally throw in there as filler too...

[DC 536]

That's the wonder of WWE these days, Flo Rida announced as guest star, and there may be some of those wrestling matches that we occasionally throw in there as filler too...

They don't have to announce there will be wrestling matches, but one-off (or once in a blue moon) guest stars who might bring in new viewers is a different thing entirely.

 

It's a 3hrs show (or 2hrs 15mins without ads) and I doubt Flo Rida will take up more than 10-15 of those.

 

Also, there is no way they would have Sting's actual debut on WWE TV be on the same show as Brock's return as one would take away from the other regardless of how they were booked.

[dsrchris 190]

10-15 minutes of Flo Rida is 10-15 too many.

[Guest Matt Black]

They don't have to announce there will be wrestling matches, but one-off (or once in a blue moon) guest stars who might bring in new viewers is a different thing entirely.

 

It's a 3hrs show (or 2hrs 15mins without ads) and I doubt Flo Rida will take up more than 10-15 of those.

 

Also, there is no way they would have Sting's actual debut on WWE TV be on the same show as Brock's return as one would take away from the other regardless of how they were booked.

 

I know, I just find the WWE's addiction to mainstream celebrities and desire to attract non-wrestling fans to their product when they have fans in attendance at live events that are chanting "boring" amusing.

 

It always feels as though they're embarrassed by the fact that they're actually in the business of running a wrestling promotion to me!

[dsrchris 190]

I think you mean a "Multimedia Sports Entertainment Corporation"?

 

:P

[Guest John Hancock]

Flo Rida? Well, this is another episode I won't be watching...

 

Look at you, acting like it isn't 2009. Which I think you'll find it is.

[ViciousPrism 177]

Quick! Pile into the chatroom!

[dsrchris 190]

On the upside, at least he's not with Machine Gun Kelly this time...

[DC 536]

I know, I just find the WWE's addiction to mainstream celebrities and desire to attract non-wrestling fans to their product when they have fans in attendance at live events that are chanting "boring" amusing.

Those fans (who include us) will tune in pretty much regardless, so enticing those who don't currently watch should be a priority (as increasing viewership, ticket sales, etc, is a positive).

 

I'm not saying Flo Rida is the answer (he's not), but a single segment on the show isn't the end of times either.

[Guest Magic]

I've stopped watching the last two months. Celebrity guests aren't going to entice me back. A good wrestling show is.

 

I'm still watching PPVs which give a rough over view of whats been happening on TV in addition to their own matches, and until I see what I consider to be an improvement I won't be tuning in to Raw.

 

I'm not against the attempt to bring in casual fans with celebrities per say, but when it comes alongside an awful wrestling product you can't blame people for thinking they've (WWE) got their priorities wrong.

 

The attitude of "oh they'll always watch anyway, so they don't matter." Is such a bull shit way of looking at it. People won't always watch. I've been turned off, Chris is being turned off. Ratings have been tumbling for a decade. There's something to be said for preserving the status quo. You cant just ignore what your core audience want and expect them to just deal with. There's only so much people will put up with. You can't look to grow if there's nothing left to grow from.

 

That got awfully ranty awfully fast :lol

 

I didn't mean it too but I'm just so frustrated with them at the moment. It's not fun not enjoying something, especially when you know they have the resources to make it so much better and just aren't through stubborness and short sightedness.

Edited July 19, 2014 by Magic

[Guest John Hancock]

Those fans (who include us) will tune in pretty much regardless, so enticing those who don't currently watch should be a priority (as increasing viewership, ticket sales, etc, is a positive).

 

I'm not saying Flo Rida is the answer (he's not), but a single segment on the show isn't the end of times either.

 

I think, on this site, at this point, you might be misusing "us". I'd imagine there's less active members on this site watching wrestling every week than the opposite.

[Maxximus 353]

I guarantee I won't be tuning in regardless.

[Guest John Hancock]

They could have Glenn Danzig rejoining the Misfits for the first time and I wouldn't tune in.

[dsrchris 190]

I haven't watched a main WWE show for 8 weeks now, and apparently I haven't missed anything of any consequence. My only WWE programming right now is NXT (which has had a dull couple of weeks, although I haven't watched this weeks episode yet) and I'm perfectly fine with that. The only thing I'm planning to watch any time soon is Brock vs Cena at SummerSlam in the hope that Brock utterly decimates Cena.

 

But yeah, I'd agree with Magic and Hancock. It seems to have reached another of those points (like the early 90's) where fans are finally admitting enough is enough and just not watching anymore.

 

Like I said on the recent podcast [/CHEAPPLUG] I've discovered that it's not pro-wrestling that I have a problem with, it's just WWE. In fact, not watching WWE has opened me back up to a whole world of pro-wrestling that is much more entertaining that putting myself through this tripe for nearly 5 hours a week.

 

Sure there are things I miss (Ambrose/Rollins, the rise of Roman Reigns, Paige/AJ) but at this point the bad so far outweighs the good that I just can't bring myself to condone them by giving them my viewing figure. People always say "well if it's so bad just stop watching", so I have.

 

And it feels good.

[DC 536]

My only WWE programming right now is NXT (which has had a dull couple of weeks, although I haven't watched this weeks episode yet)

For the entrance of The Vaudevillains alone, you should watch this week's episode.

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Someone seems pleased.

[Guest HH-Evolution]

He honestly looked like he was there as a planted reaction focus for the camera, he was so overexhaggerated in his reactions that it felt entirely 'staged'.

[Guest Inno]

Think he was more trying to make a name for himself as the new Brock Lesnar guy, Miz Girl or Taker Guy.

 

Eejit.

 

And Ziggler and Ryder win on Raw? What the hell???

[Guest HH-Evolution]

Not the first time Stephanie McMahons been in handcuffs, I'm sure! :lol

[Guest FreeSpirit]

Great RAW last night. Thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish.

 

The Stephanie handcuff segment was funny as f*ck, HHH to start the show saying he was going on Twitter to have a good moan and he might stop watching the show had me in stitches. Flo-Rida was great and I love Bray's entrance more and more each show. Great to see Lesnar back as well for the first time since RAW the night after WrestleMania. Thumbs up from me. :xyx

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

OK people, let's shut up shop, close the ballots, put it all away, because I'm pretty sure at this point we can all agree that Stephanie McMahon is clearly the Wrestler of the Year, and possibly of all time.

 

She was so great today that she forced me out of retirement just to say how great she is. If someone finds me a GIF of her doing the "Ooooooh!" hands at Brie, holla atcha boy.

[dsrchris 190]

JIMMEH!! :tban

 

Well...since it brought you out of retirement: