Cesaro.....Where art thou?

[Guest Ciaran The King]

Is it me or has the WWE lost interest in the man formerly known as Antonio?

 

Okay maybe I'm jumping the gun and he may even win the IC title come Battleground but over the last month Cesaro has been on the losing end 3 times on Raw against inadequate mid-card opponents. This is the man pre-Wrestlemania was looking like the next star, now just 3 months later he's laying down for Kofi and Big E? I just don't get WWE's sometimes. So he might win the title on Sunday and their idea is to make he look weak in the run up to the event?

 

With impending return of BROCK LESNAR thing's aren't looking very good for the Swiss Superman

[Guest Matt Black]

Just another instance of the WWE's stop/start manner of pushing anyone outside of the immediate championship picture.

 

Either he'll pop up in a storyline for one of the belts before you know it or he'll still be circling the airport in a month's time.

[Guest fattyfudge]

I love the guy, and thought it was time for a hefty big time push after Mania, but now they've got him going with this angry heel gimmick, where he's losing a lot of support.. I mean he doesn't even do the swing anymore goddammit

[dsrchris 190]

You said it yourself in your post, they're using him as a heel, but the swing was super over with the crowd, so it makes sense that they don't let him use the swing if they don't want him getting any cheers.

 

Whether that is right or not is another question entirely. Personally I thought Cesaro was fine as he was. There was no real need to make him a heel or a face, they could've just pushed him as the workhorse he is and he would've ended up cheered against pretty much anyone regardless of whether they're heel or face.

 

In fact, having Cesaro as a kind of ambiguous tweener would've been perfect. He's not a heel, he's not a face, he's just a really good wrestler. He wouldn't even really need a storyline as such. Just let him go and sell himself as a competitor. Why do we even need heels and faces these days anyway? Who really wants their morality plays to be that black and white?

[Guest Gomi]

I read an article about Cesaro from one of wrestling sites actually which answers this thread. Unfortunately I cant copy and paste on this phone.

 

But the jist is, in WWE logic, they are going to push Cesaro as a main eventer after the push of Reigns as they don't want to confuse the audience pushing two big new baby faces at the same time.

 

Still doesn't answer the question, why can't they keep him having solid strong matches instead of the tedious losing streaks.

[ViciousPrism 177]

They could have easily kept the Shield as a 3 man unit and pushed Cesaro, since Cesaro's push really seemed to start at Wrestlemania, but then WWE in their infinite wisdom paired him with Paul Heyman, which has done absolutely nothing for Cesaro and now we're expected to get behind him in 6-10 months when their Reigns project is over? F*ck that.

[Guest Gomi]

Its moments like this where you appreciate being kept strong on Smack down with 20 minute main event matches of yesteryear.

 

The drawback of combinging the WWE world titles and not increasing the status of the IC/ US

[dsrchris 190]

Why is WWE's current strategy for making a heel to stick them with Heyman? My snidey side thinks it's just a way of them killing off the whole "Paul Heyman Guy" thing.

[ViciousPrism 177]

The idea of it for smarter fans shouldn't exist anyway, because Heidenreich was a Heyman guy. Not everything he touches turns to gold. It doesn't help Cesaro when all Heyman does is "MY CLIENT BORK LAZER BROKE THE STREAK".

 

EDIT: Analyzing it further, the only Paul Heyman guy that ever really got anywhere in WWE (in kayfabe terms) was indeed Brock.

 

Brock Lesnar - Heyman got in on the ground floor. Brock ended up winning KOTR, the WWE Championship and the Royal Rumble in his rookie year, and was undefeated from his debut to Survivor Series 2002, when Heyman turned on him to align with Big Show.

Big Show - Big Show had a new lease of life under Heyman's tutelage for a small time then, whoops.

Kurt Angle - Kurt was already established and over.

Shelton Benjamin - Their alliance didn't last long, because Shelty B was a Kurt Angle guy.

Charlie Haas - See Shelton.

A-Train - LOL.

Heidenreich - Double LOL.

Matt Morgan - Triple LOL.

Nathan Jones - QUADRUPLE LOL~! COMBO BONUS!!

Test - Was getting somewhere in ECW in 2006/2007 until his wellness violation.

Hardcore Holly - Ugh.

CM Punk - Punk was already over as hell, he didn't really need Heyman but it did make for some entertaining TV.

Curtis Axel - Was promising until we realized that Axel was still quite useless.

Ryback - ...Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah, no.

Cesaro - See above for my thoughts on Cesaro and Heyman's relationship.

Edited July 19, 2014 by ViciousPrism

[Guest Matt Black]

Maybe it's just because I liked the Shield so much and I want to see Caesaro pushed, but there's just something that still doesn't feel right about Reigns and his place in the current title picture. It feels as though he's been shoehorned in there and doesn't quite fit in the program with Super Cena, Orton and the the Devil's favorite Halloween costume. Maybe he's still too green in my eyes, not having spent enough time after the break-up of the Shield to justify such a high position, and I can't imagine him actually winning the title either, so isn't he just going to be harmed by his inclusion in the 4-way match for the championship?

[ViciousPrism 177]

Probably, yeah. I figure WWE just are trying to capitalize on Reign's pop from the Rumble (Well, the chants and shit from the last 10 minutes) waaaaaaay too late. It's definitely too soon, but what else are they gonna do with him? IC/US Title means less than shit right now.

[Guest Magic]

The post Shield break up booking direction of Reigns and the title picture is pretty much the biggest factor in my disillusionment. Everything has just been pretty much the opposite of what I'd have liked to seen from the group, and giving they were more or less the only thing making the shows watchable, it was the straw that broke my back.

 

As for Cesaro, I've never been a Cesaro guy so it doesn't bother me what they do with him really, but looking at it from just a booking point of view, there's no doubt he's been booked poorly. Sticking him with Heyman when he was garnering good babyface heat was probably the wrong call. And then have Heyman rabble on about Lesnar all the time definitely wasn't helping.

Edited July 19, 2014 by Magic

[Guest HH-Evolution]

They don't know what to do with Cesaro - that much is painfully clear.

[Guest Matt Black]

They don't know what to do with Cesaro - that much is painfully clear.

 

Having him lose to the moribund Big E confirms that for me...

[Guest Ciaran The King]

The Heyman alliance now looks like the worst decision they could have possibly made concerning Cesaro

[dsrchris 190]

Hyperbole much? It obviously wasn't the WORST decision, since folks were into it when it initially happened. Letting it peeter out was probably a bad decision, but jeez, all this uber-exaggeration needs to stop.

 

It's not the "best thing ever", it's "a good match".

 

It's not "the worst booking ever" it's "I didn't agree with the direction they went in".

 

Just...yeah...chill out. Goddamn wrestling fans. :lol

[Guest Ciaran The King]

Yes the Heyman alliance was a good move, in hindsight however Cesaro was on a roll so the partnership with Heyman was bad for business