Thank you Y2J for saving WWE

[Guest Iceman000]

I really like chris jericho. Damn how i miss the code breaker so much. I wasnt expecting him to come back but i hope he's full time. Feud with the wyatt family is in my opinion what's best for business. But i just hope it's not gonna be jericho and usos vs wyatt. *** it's always the usos. We'll see..

[Guest Matt Black]

Bored sh*tless of Jericho.

 

He's disappeared and returned so many times in the past decade that it's no great surprise when he resurfaces to ever diminishing returns.

 

He's super-bland as a face and unbelievable as a heel.

 

IMHO: he should either retire for good, or else devote a minimum of a year to WWE and add something new to his character.

[King 277]

He was and still is extremely overrated and bland, even his band Fozzy are rubbish, let him stick to his podcasts.

[Guest Iceman000]

Cmon man! The return of y2j makes wwe more exciting. I know you guys weren't happy *** all you want is for cm punk to return. Now, that's overrated.

[ViciousPrism 177]

No it doesn't. Jericho being back means shit all to anything other than Y2J fans. He's just another replaceable cog in the machine that is WWE.

[Guest John Hancock]

Cmon man! The return of y2j makes wwe more exciting. I know you guys weren't happy *** all you want is for cm punk to return. Now, that's overrated.

 

I don't want that, and I didn't want this.

[Guest The Beltster]

Eh, Jericho has been stale for 10 years but if you get a kick out of him being on TV, good on you mate.

[Guest Matt Black]

Cmon man! The return of y2j makes wwe more exciting. I know you guys weren't happy *** all you want is for cm punk to return. Now, that's overrated.

 

I'm not sure how you could have the current incarnation of Jericho make a ride in a lift more exciting. Maybe the Jericho that was around during his tenure in the WCW more than two decades ago could have been an interesting addition to the current roster (an arrogant punk that could actually perform in the ring when he felt like it). But the spiky-haried, clean-shaven wannabe actor and karaoke singer is just another place-holder in trunks and kick-pads.

 

For the record, I would like Punk back though, and seeing his knee connect with Jericho's head would be the only positive thing about the latter's latest return.

[Guest Edgehead]

Cmon man! The return of y2j makes wwe more exciting. I know you guys weren't happy *** all you want is for cm punk to return. Now, that's overrated.

 

Jericho is boring & I have no interest in him being back & as for Punk I can take him or leave him, if he comes back that's fine by me & if he doesn't that's also fine by me.

[Guest Ciaran The King]

I think Jericho still has a few performances left, I feel what he does in the ring he does well and I've got no problem with him returning

[Guest Matt Black]

FFS, I just saw Fozzy on the Sky Arts coverage of the Download festival at Castle Donington.

 

If that's what he's spending his time doing whilst he's away from wrestling then he's in serious danger of having people slag him off in two forms of entertainment at once.

 

Guy can't sing.

[Guest John Hancock]

I wonder what Fozzy would be without him though. I think they're really terrible, but I think all that cut-off sleeves, sunglasses indoors, heavy metal for Dads, jock-rock genre is just really terrible in it's entirety anyway, but there's obviously an audience for that kind of music because Rock Of Ages was on Broadway for f*cking time. Within that genre, are they bad, or is it just that that genre's so bad that it's impossible to tell?

[Guest Matt Black]

I wonder what Fozzy would be without him though. I think they're really terrible, but I think all that cut-off sleeves, sunglasses indoors, heavy metal for Dads, jock-rock genre is just really terrible in it's entirety anyway, but there's obviously an audience for that kind of music because Rock Of Ages was on Broadway for f*cking time. Within that genre, are they bad, or is it just that that genre's so bad that it's impossible to tell?

 

They're pretty much a terrible example of their genre who have become notorious thanks to being Jericho's vanity project on the side.

[DC 536]

They've been going for 15yrs and six albums, so I'd say it's more than just a vanity project.

[Guest Yodahew]

I was at download and saw fozzy and i loved it. Yes its cheesy as hell but i like that about them. I did say to my girlfriend at the time he is looking like he is getting back in ring shape and lo and behold he returns! I enjoy him in wwe but then again i like punk as well so what do i no? Lol

[Guest John Hancock]

They've been going for 15yrs and six albums, so I'd say it's more than just a vanity project.

 

So they're one album and seven years off of being as legitimate and non-vanity-band-ish as Russell Crowe's band.

Edited July 5, 2014 by John Hancock

[DC 536]

You put that amount of time and effort into something, I personally don't feel it can be called a vanity project. Much in the same way 30 Seconds to Mars is not a vanity project for Jared Leto.

[Guest John Hancock]

I don't think you can really call Russell Crowe's band anything other than a vanity project, irrespective of their length or catalogue. To be, a vanity project is something a rich person does that, to someone else, would be a career, but, to him, is just for fun, which exists almost entirely off the back of the investor's money or fame and is noticeably secondary to the thing they actually became rich or famous doing. I'd throw billionaire sports team owners into that category, Kevin Smith's comicbook shop and the co-founder of Microsoft's blues band.

 

30 Seconds To Mars was more like a career change, they're a real band who do real band things and make real band money and win real band awards and get played on real radio stations. I'd imagine the money Jared Leto has made from 30 Seconds To Mars is similar to the amount he made as an actor. I imagine the numbers don't quite balance like that for Chris Jericho.

 

Maybe it's all about perception, but 30 Seconds To Mars gets taken seriously, Fozzy doesn't, 30 Seconds To Mars are a band with a singer who also acts, Fozzy is a band with a wrestler as a singer.

[DC 536]

Maybe it's all about perception

I'll go with that.

 

For me, a vanity project is something like the movies Moonwalker, Glitter, Battlefield Earth (even though it starred John Travolta, the subject matter makes it a vanity project for me) or Cool As Ice ("starring" Vanilla Ice) or the one album / one song deals from a number of soap stars over the years.

 

To spend a long time consistently doing something other than your main claim to fame, for me, is more of a second career than a simple project.

 

I guess since there's no official definition, we'll just have agree to disagree on this one.

Edited July 6, 2014 by DC

[Guest Matt Black]

Perhaps vanity project is a bit harsh of a term, but to me the band has never seemed a strong enough proposition to demand more of Jericho's time than wrestling.

 

Then again I would have that bias as a wrestling fan, even though I also have a soft spot for Metal as a genre.

 

At least they're better than Dog Star, which is a very good example of a band featuring a famous actor and are truly awful (Dog Sh*t would have been a more honest name).

[Guest BeorimJ]

Fozzy aside, i like Jericho more than some of the wrestlers who are working full time. And i like about him, that he (other than other part timers) that he is usually coming back to put new talent over/help strengthen their legacy. Last time it was Fandango, this time it is Bray Wyatt.

[dsrchris 190]

You say he puts talent over, but what do they really gain from working with Jericho? His match with Fandango ended looking like Fandango fluked a win, his work to put Punk over as champion was massively over-rated, his mini-feud with Ziggler went nowhere and did nothing for either guy.

 

For some reason Jericho now has this reputaion for coming back and "making" guys, when I can't honestly see any evidence to prove that? I defy you all to name me one person within the last 5 years who has worked against Jericho and came out looking better than they did going in?

[Guest Matt Black]

You say he puts talent over, but what do they really gain from working with Jericho? His match with Fandango ended looking like Fandango fluked a win, his work to put Punk over as champion was massively over-rated, his mini-feud with Ziggler went nowhere and did nothing for either guy.

 

For some reason Jericho now has this reputaion for coming back and "making" guys, when I can't honestly see any evidence to prove that? I defy you all to name me one person within the last 5 years who has worked against Jericho and came out looking better than they did going in?

 

Agreed.

 

What possible benefit is there for a new name who needs to become established to be gained from feuding with a guy who pops up once every six to nine months and then flounces off again to appear in a reality TV show or tour with his band? Wouldn't it make more sense for that same up-and-comer to be put in a programme with a full-time opponent who was already firmly established in the minds of the fans, such as Orton or Kane?

[Guest HH-Evolution]

Jericho seems to honestly have used up his value as 'that' kind of talent - and has never really been all that good at it ever since leaving WWE in the first place to pursue his band and whatnot...he just seems to be a shadow of his original Y2J run everytime he comes back, with the bright star dimming with every craptacular return run where he does absolutely nothing of value for months before 'doing the exit job' for an up and comer which doesn't even leave much of an impression after a week or so.

 

Jericho's name value is lacking overall these days, and I don't really see how he's saving ANYTHING by being so damn mediocre!

 

/pipebomb!

[Guest Matt Black]

Jericho seems to honestly have used up his value as 'that' kind of talent - and has never really been all that good at it ever since leaving WWE in the first place to pursue his band and whatnot...he just seems to be a shadow of his original Y2J run everytime he comes back, with the bright star dimming with every craptacular return run where he does absolutely nothing of value for months before 'doing the exit job' for an up and comer which doesn't even leave much of an impression after a week or so.

 

Jericho's name value is lacking overall these days, and I don't really see how he's saving ANYTHING by being so damn mediocre!

 

/pipebomb!

 

What he said.

 

Has Jericho really added anything to his repertoire apart from the Codebreaker since his original WWE run?