WWE RAW Discussion Thread - June 30, 2014 from Hartford, CT (#1101)

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When

United States: LIVE, Monday Night, June 30, at 8/7c on the USA Network

United Kingdom: Tuesday Morning, July 1, at 12AM on SkySportsHD3

 

Venue

XL Center in Hartford, CT

 

Confirmed Matches/Events

 

Money-in-the-Bank Fallout

[Guest FreeSpirit]

AJ Lee you sexy beast. Back in action and Divas champion again. ❤

[Guest BeorimJ]

Oh man, what a RAW.... Paige lost the title :-( - AJ back and won the title :-) - Cena storyline and promo work out surprisingly well in my eyes :-) - return of Miz *yawn* and Jericho :-)....

 

i really just hate that they misused Paige so badly that she did not get the crowd behind her, which made the way last night went on inevitable.

[Guest Ciaran The King]

Really enjoyed Raw last night, Rollins/RVD, 6 Man Tag and Main were all good matches. Cesar looked like a beast kicking the crap out of mid-carder for life Kofi Kingston. It's said watching Dolph now, can see him being future endeavoured with the next round of cuts.

 

The return of Aj and title win was pointed out the obvious....WWE has lost faith with Paige.

 

Miz....Bore

 

Return of Jericho is always pleasant and the Wyatt stare/beat down was great....the feud should prove compelling.

 

Reigns/Triple H confrontation was riveting stuff, when they finally go collide it should be epic

[Guest Jack]

Paige is terrible and well out of her depth. She looks nothing like a Diva should do and she can't cut a promo, so there's no point in having her in the WWE. Hopefully she gets sacked.

 

Decent show overall, I thought.

[Guest The Beltster]

Oh good, Stale Bread Jericho is back again with his hair looking even more shit.

[dsrchris 190]

Paige is terrible and well out of her depth. She looks nothing like a Diva should do and she can't cut a promo, so there's no point in having her in the WWE. Hopefully she gets sacked.

 

Paige is actually really good, well, she was whenever I saw her on UK shows, so I don't know what's gone wrong.

 

It's weird though, because it's like WWE kinda flaunt the weaknesses of people instead of masking them and hiding them away. Paige can't cut promos, so let's give her a microphone for her first night on the main roster.

 

They could benefit from adopting the Paul Heyman method of booking where you accentuate the positives while cleverly hiding the flaws and weaknesses. But then that would rely on someone in creative actually knowing what they're doing and how to make that happen. Which they don't, obviously.

 

I know I'm sounding like a broken record as well, but she was kidna doomed to fail right from her call up. A bunch of folks got invested in her character from NXT, but absolutely none of that was mentioned to attempt to clue none NXT watching fans in to who she was. Obviously she was gonna get a pop on the Raw after Mania soely because it's the Raw after Mania and the smarky crowd are in there en masse, it just seems like WWE thought that would be enough to carry her through, instead of giving us a legitmate reason to ge behind her.

 

You know what, I'm gonna have to stop posting for a day or two, because everything that comes out right now is just super negative about WWE. They've done p*ssed me off royally this time, and I don't think I'm gonna get past it.

 

Oh, and I agree with Belty, who gives a sh*t about Jericho returning for another 3 months? He'll have a mini feud with the Wyatts then disappear again to go off with his Fozzy.

 

WWE really needs to stop trying to pop the viewing figures with part timers and concentrate on making their full time guys look good enough to take over.

[Chris2K 176]

I'm not saying it's because I changed bandwagons, but y'know...

 

Seriously though I think Paige has been treated really badly here, and now she's lost the title to the thinnest pregnant woman in the world.

[DC 536]

The stuff with The Authority and Cena sucked (except Triple H's attempts at being "gangsta") and Jericho's return was as anti-climactic as they come.

 

This was because my wife told me when I got in the door to stay away from the internet until I'd watched RAW as there is a huge surprise that might put a smile on my face after the abject misery of Cena's title win.

 

Because of this, I had high hopes for something along the lines of The Shield reforming or a Sting appearance, but when Jericho came out and she looked at me expecting a bunch of excitement wrinkles, all she got was "aw, for f*ck sake" as my apathy continued to excrete from every pore.

 

I mean, I think Jericho is a great wrestler and I've loved his stuff down the years, but another part-time return with the same catchphrases and the knowledge that he'll be a sufferer of JAW (Just Another Wrestler) Syndrome in a few weeks means I cannot get excited by his return.

 

My prediction about Swagger being the Rocky to Big E.'s Apollo Creed did make me smile though.

 

Who would have thought that in 2014, Jack Swagger gave me the happiest moment on a wrestling show?

[DC 536]

So Cena was surprised to see himself on the cover of the game?

 

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[Guest Magic]

Paige has been booked terribly, and surprise surprise she didn't get over. No shit. Stupid morons in creative. I'm not gonna watch the show, sounds like there is only 0ne, maybe two segments I want to see and I just don't have the time to fast forward through a three hour show looking for them.

 

Can't really care about Jericho coming back either, like others have said, the over reliance on popping ratings through part timers rather than building up a permanent roster makes me sigh. I've never felt this apathetic to the product, even throughout the horrible guest host/anonymous gm/The Miz years of a few years ago. I think if Raw was still only 2 hours I might be able to get through it. But the thought of watching shite for three hours is one that does not appeal to me at all.

[Guest Edgehead]

Who would have thought that in 2014, Jack Swagger gave me the happiest moment on a wrestling show?

This was one of the highlights for me this week as well, never thought I'd give a s**t about anything Swagger did but I do quite like the idea of him being the one to take down Rusev.

 

But this really must have been a s**t Raw if that was one of the highlights. I have no interest whatsoever in seeing Cena have another run as champ & I have no interest in seeing Jericho back either.

 

I think Dean Ambrose is my favourite guy on the roster now, I really like his unhinged babyface character & I'm looking forward to when him & Rollins finally have a one on one match.

[Guest Ciaran The King]

Steph's dancing was the highlight of the show

[Guest The Beltster]

I hate Ambrose's deal right now, his acting is sooooo pitiful. I mean really, its crap, acting all loony but in a really piss poor way. I liked the Shield, I think he's a good wrestler, but the way he plays his gimmick is dire.

[Fletch 204]

Hit and miss for me this week, which I actually made a concerted effort to watch rather than the YouTube clips I tend to skim lately.

 

Paige cuts an awful promo, the crowd was dead for her but popped for AJ. Double turn worked but Paige will now fade into obscurity as will Adam Rose since the story is that Vince doesn't get them so they've both been booked badly.

 

I loved the Miz segment, because let's be honest, he's a really obnoxious **** everyone hates? Hence he's at his best as an obnoxious heel. They built it up all night and when his music hit you could hear the collective 'oh for f***s sake' around the world. The crowd was genuinely excited for the Jericho return then. A nice feud with Wyatt should be excellent TV. I've heard he's here for at least 3 months this time. I've no issue at all with Y2J coming and going when he has free time at all. It makes his time a little bit more meaningful.

 

I absolutely love the Ambrose telling rollins he'll foil his cash ins, and we all pretty much forgot that when Seth marched to the ring to cash in, then boom, Ambrose is all up on him. I think there's potential in the feud but they need to be wary as to how they book it.

[DC 536]

Some people online are wondering if WWE will run with Ambrose c0ck-blocking Rollins for the entire year, meaning Seth will be the first person to lose their opportunity via the time-limit elapsing. Edited July 2, 2014 by DC

[Guest Edgehead]

I like that idea, it'll be an original way to play out the Mr Money in the Bank story, as long as they can keep the Ambrose/Rollins feud going for a year without it getting stale.

[Guest Ciaran The King]

The Ambrose/Rollins feud should peak at Summerslam, they can easily come back to it around Wrestlemania season and involve Reigns but to continue it for a year would be hard

[Guest BeorimJ]

What i like about Jericho is the fact that he is legitimately helping to bring new talent over

and you might say that Wyatt is over, but at the moment he is "too" over.

Wyatt is a heel, and he should stay a heel for some time with this gimmick. But he is being perceived almost as a face, and fighting Cena or Sheamus does not really help him, since they have become too mushed up as faces to allow Bray gather the heat he needs as a heel.

And a shining face-Jericho might help that a great deal, if WWE creative manage to do a decent job

[Guest Ciaran The King]

Jericho will happily put Bray over and make him seem a legitimate threat to whoever Bray faces after this

[dsrchris 190]

Just like he did with Fandango? :P

[DC 536]

Jericho will happily put Bray over and make him seem a legitimate threat to whoever Bray faces after this

Just like he did with Fandango? :P

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[Guest Matt Black]

I just love it when the WWE goes with a story-line in which a champion is able to book themselves in a championship match on a whim and then lose the belt to someone who supposedly just waltzed out of the backstage area and insulted them. It makes all those contract signing angles and number one contenderships look so silly, even undermines the idea of the Money in the Bank briefcase. Even more stupid is having a champion accept such a challenge and then actually lose the belt in the process; what better way to tell the audience that any moron can get their hands on a title in the WWE. Edited July 5, 2014 by John Hancock

[Guest Yodahew]

Like pulling santino out of the audience to win the IC belt against umaga?

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The week before RAW, I was sick, so I was way behind on my WWE programming. I didn't get around to watching RAW until Wednesday and I tried my best to avoid spoilers. I thought it was safe to go to Facebook on Tuesday, but there it was on that news feed thing that nobody asked for telling me that Jericho and AJ returned on RAW. I was not happy to say the least.

 

I'm a fan of both Paige and AJ Lee. I actually think that Paige is just as good, if not better, than AJ is. I was a bit disappointed to see WWE book Paige as little more than a transitional champion, but it does appear that they may be turning Paige heel, so that will be interesting, I hope. At this point, AJ and Paige are the only Divas in WWE worth anything. The Bella Twins are decent enough to get by and Brie Bella being Daniel Bryan's wife is enough to get her over.

 

Maybe it's because the return was spoiled for me, but Jericho's return to WWE seemed lackluster compared to The Miz's return. Maybe it's because most people were expecting it.