Santa Barbara Killing Spree

[Maxximus 353]

7 dead, including gunman, in shooting near Calif. college campus: Hollywood director suspects son

 

 

A lawyer for a Hollywood director says he suspects his son carried out a mass shooting near the University of California, Santa Barbara campus late Friday that left seven people dead, including the gunman, and 11 injured in what authorities say was a “premeditated mass murder.”

 

Authorities have not confirmed the identity of the gunman who was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head at the end of Friday’s rampage. But lawyer Alan Shifman, attorney for Peter Rodger, an assistant director on “The Hunger Games” film series, says that Rodger believes the shooter is his 22-year-old son Elliot Rodger, and that his family had called police weeks before about disturbing YouTube videos he had posted, his lawyer.

 

[video=youtube;t-jCSZh2tMk]

 

 

Police say a gunman driving a BMW near the university campus carried out the rampage. Authorities described the tragedy as "obviously the work of a mad man."

 

Eleven people were injured, including one who has undergone surgery, following the shooting spree in the beachside community of Isla Vista, Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said.

 

The gunman got into two gun battles before crashing into a parked car. Deputies found the lone suspect dead, but it wasn't immediately clear whether he was killed by gunfire or if he committed suicide, Brown said.

 

Fox News~ confirmed that several of the dead were killed at a sorority house.

 

 

Watch the above video. It's 20 minutes+ but an insight into the killers motivation. Let's profile this guy. I have a feeling he was a closet homosexual who was afraid of the consequences of coming out. He states in the video he always wanted a beautiful blonde sorority girl girlfriend, but if you ask me, he wanted to be that blonde sorority girl. This whole thing could have been prevented if he had a friend take him out to a gay bar.

 

While it may sound like I'm joking, I'm totally not. Watch the video and you'll see exactly what I mean. This isn't rocket science.

[etz 78]

I just don't get feeling "lonely", I really don't, but I suspect that's a "deficiency" in me. Aside from that, his sense of entitlement and self obsession are probably the main reason he was alone. People pick up on those vibes. He's also extremely shallow, he wants a "beautiful girlfriend" (seriously he must have said those words a 100 times). These are things you need to mask effectively to appear more normal.

 

He also seems to indicate that he has no friends, and a guy with no friends is unlikely to have a girlfriend, since having friends is a key indicator of social ability and that shit matters because "what if my friends don't like him?" is pretty much insta-death to any suitors chances.

 

Also, you don't need a girlfriend to socialize and party, those are actually how you meet potential friends and girlfriends.

 

All of this takes him at face value. But whatever the case, his main problem is the need to be validated by a third party. If you can't be happy alone, you'll never really be happy at all. Instead you'll drift from one high to another in a string of relationships lasting 12- 18 months, maybe less.

[Maxximus 353]

That's something you and I have in common that makes me think I should talk to my shrink about(totally kidding, don't burn me alive, etz).

 

I spend a lot of time on my own. I mean, I have a lot of friends and family and whatnot, but I never feel lonely when I'm by myself. In fact I love my alone time. I wouldn't trade it for anything. You can be alone without being lonely. Of course I've had girlfriends and was married so I can't really relate to someone who's never been with a girl(or guy, giraffe, whatever). Plus I'm way older too. I'm sure if I was in my early 20's and couldn't get laid I'd be bummed too. Still, I would never kill anyone because of it.

[DC 536]

Uproxx have a follow-up article as the shooter's 141-page manifesto has been released.

 

It is, to use the technical term, mental to the point of insanity.

Edited May 25, 2014 by DC

[Guest The Beltster]

2 minutes in and I felt he was an unlikeable *****...no wonder people had no time for him.

[Maxximus 353]

http://i.imgur.com/5aTAxQp.png

[Guest John Hancock]

I'd say how I feel about all this, but, to see it said shorter, and with less spelling mistakes, go check out @JimNorton to get but a glimpse into how f*cking DISGUSTING I find the public and media reaction to this.

 

This is how the people involved feel;

 

[Maxximus 353]

What makes this worse is that there are people online actually supporting the idiot who caused this. I know most of it is trolling but I guarantee you there are guys out there who are gonna see what he did and misinterpret it thinking that he was fighting for some lonely guy cause or something. It's the worst case of misplaced hero worship I've ever seen. The guy is already a legend and savior on 4chan. It's all very disturbing.

 

Seriously with everything going on, if I was a Christian I'd be calling it the end times. Hell, I don't need to be a Christian, this is the f*cking end times. Strap in folks, it's gonna get crazy.

[Guest John Hancock]

Yeah, but think about what's going on in the context of the past. Can you imagine if this guy was even vaguely interesting or charismatic? Can you imagine if 4Chan existed at the same time as the Manson Family? If 24 hour news existed at the same time as Ted Bundy? Far from being the end times, the media PRAYS for superstar serial killers like they used to have, instead of yet another skinny loser with bad hair, a gun, a shoddy manifesto, and a chronically underused dick.

 

And, I mean, of course he's a hero on 4Chan. He's a meaningless, emotionally stunted, sociopathic, nasty, stupid, lonely, irrelevant, boring nobody, that's the demographic that entire website was founded for. He's like to 4Chan what Jeremy Lin is to Asians, he's their one guy ever.

[Omega 354]

I read the manifesto, it's just intensely dull up until about page 120 of 141 where he finally gets to the bit about his "day of remembrance". Everything else is the diary of a shy teenager who's parents who were happy enough to let him fester in video games than deal with him. It all rather feels like someone could have avoided half of this if they'd taken him under their wing at any point up until he moved out of his parents places. There's some kind of eating disorder in there somewhere as well I think, when not talking about all the sex he isn't getting and playing WoW it's the only other thing he really mentions in detail.

[Maxximus 353]

Elliot Rodgers... is alive. You heard it here first.

 

 

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The killings took place on May 23rd. This video was uploaded May 28th. YOU DECIDE!

[DC 536]

It may have been uploaded on May 28th, but when was it actually filmed? Also, the video doesn't appear to exist (or at least it's not on YouTube any more), although DGpawnshop is a real uploader.

[Omega 354]

Look at the chin, the guy in the video has a big old bum chin, Elliot Rogers has a smooth chin.

[Maxximus 353]

Yea I saw people talking about the butt chin thing in the comments.

[Guest John Hancock]

I don't want to change the topic too much, but this video was uploaded May 28th, 2013. HISTORY IS A LIE.

 

[video=youtube;_udlGGCayrU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_udlGGCayrU

[Maxximus 353]

Mussolini is ALIVE! Mindcrime... mindcrime everywhere!

 

Could someone take a look at this as I have a problem with objectivity and give me their unbiased opinion? The whole crime scene thing really bothers me.

 

 

[video=youtube;e5JfkzTYH8Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5JfkzTYH8Y&feature=youtu.be

[Guest John Hancock]

Without watching the video, which I will do, I will offer one piece of evidence;

 

THEY SAY IT EVERY SINGLE TIME.

 

According to conspiracy theorists, Bill Clinton is literally the only murderer in the history of the universe. Everything else was a hoax. Even the boy who cried wolf only got three shots before everyone realised he was full of shit.

 

Okay, so here's the thing, I was ready. I was going to go point by point, really take it apart, and then I gave up. Why? Because it's just too stupid. I just refuse to treat that video with any respect, and that's coming from someone who likes conspiracy theories. Maxx, you're better than this. As I said when you said this is like end times stuff, it really isn't, it's so small time and you're better than this. In a world where Charles Manson, Ed Gein, Albert Fish, Ted Bundy, Edmond Gemper, John Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer exist, you don't need this loser, and, in a world where MK-Ultra, JFK, Cuba, The Military Industrial Complex, Operation Paperclip and CIA drug smuggling actually really happened, you don't need this complete, absolute, unapologetic nonsense. It's not even fun or funny, it's just so, so, SO stupid. It's stupid to the point that I'm actually almost angry that people this stupid exist, and are yet smug and self confident enough to think they're teaching anyone anything.

 

So I'm not going to deconstruct what they're saying, that's easy. It's easy to deconstruct anything, hence, this video existing. It's easy to see a pane of glass and just make up reasons why it might be there, it's easy to make up reasons why the notoriously honourable Deli Staff & Papparazzi Alliance of America might not be following legal procedure, so, instead, I'll write up what they're saying happened, and see how it seems when you actually read it as an alternative history, not just some smug c*nts making things up. So, story time;

 

For some reason, the government decided to arrange a murder spree. To do this, they would shoot, or pretend to shoot random people, and then blame it on an innocent man. Their first step was to order replacement glass to all the places where the events were scheduled to occur, because otherwise people would have to wait around for new windows. Then the event occurred. Either real people were shot, or fake blood was used, and slugs were inserted into the fake blood for no reason. Deli staff were then ordered to clean up the blood, because, despite having just murdered people on behalf of the President of the United Sttes, the CIA thought ordering a biohazard team, or dressing up as a fake biohazards team, was just too much work. They then allowed the media extremely close to take photographs of this, forgetting that all their pre-ordered replacement glass was just sitting in the shop. They then cycled over to the other fake scene, where a man had been arrested or kidnapped in his car, forgetting not to leave their bicycles lying around. They then stage a fake suicide, using a fake body, but forgetting to apply any fake blood. They still, again, allow the media to photograph this. They then released a false manifesto from the killer because they thought it was funny.

 

Side note, whilst making these very stupid, very childish mistakes, they also secretly run the world.

 

Picking fault with something is the easiest thing in the entire universe, but it's not worth shit when you're version of what happens is one of the stupidest stories ever written. You are smarter than this sir.

[Maxximus 353]

See I knew it was pretty ridiculous but I wasn't sure if that was just me. I never once believed this was a false flag but sometimes I have a hard time accepting the official story so I thought I would ask for a little help on this one. One of the major problems I had is, like you said, the smug way they preset this, like they're so much better than everyone else for believing there was a cover up because there were glass panes at the scene and people cleaning up. Seriously if the police gathered enough evidence to solve the case then there's no issue with the shop owners or whatever cleaning up the crime scene. If the case is closed then they're done there and that's it. It's that simple.

 

Just to be clear I was totally kidding about the 'end times' stuff. I kinda thought that was an obvious joke but then again I'm sure it's tough to tell when I'm kidding when it comes to this kind of stuff.

[Guest John Hancock]

I love, and I mean LOVE conspiracy theories. Love, love, love them. But there's something so gross about conspiracy theorists. I think it's the vultureness. Like, every time there's a tragedy anywhere in the world, here they come. Are they here to help? Are they here to mourn? Are they here to educate? Nope, they're here to be smug. I know something you don't know, hehehehehe. It's just so gross, they just can't wait for someone to die in a horrible way so they can swoop down and gossip over the bones and talk about how smart they are, because they've made up a story about how this particular tragedy is someone else's fault, or isn't real, or, more importantly, is about them. Some kids got shot in Connecticut? F*ck that, it's probably about MY gun collection. Some innocent people were crushed and burned to death in a collapsing building? Nope, it's about taking away MMMMMYYYYYYYYYY civil liberties. MMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEE, EVERYTHING'S ABOUT MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

 

For the record, I totally thought you were being serious about the end times thing in the sense that I thought you were seriously saying things are getting worse, but, I hate the idea of people having to be less dry for idiots like me, so I take full responsibly for that, and don't you dare change.

[Maxximus 353]

That's what bugs me about most of the internet conspiracy community. They never want to really help anyone and they think everything is about them. They give guys like me a bad name. It's gotten to the point where I don't even visit my favorite conspiracy sites anymore because I can't handle seeing every other post that says wake up sheeple or people like me who try to be sensible about things being called a shill. That's some Alex Jones tier bullshit and I want no part of it. Really, me? I'm a shill? I love Bigfeets and UFOs and alternative history theory and I'm a CIA shill? What?!

 

I have a much better time hunting for UFOs and serious government corruption stuff on my own and have found far greater success than I have on any forum(apart from here of course because I trust your opinions more than any typical junior CTer).

 

As far as 'end times' I haven't subscribed to that in a long long time unless you consider an unforeseen asteroid strike which is very possible, end times. No Alien invasions, no Nibiru, no second coming of Jesus(which would be bitchin'). Just Asteroids, comets and X 40+ direct path solar flares/CMEs. Oh and Yellowstone. That bitch could go at anytime between yesterday and 1000+ years and would be felt world wide in the long term.