TPIB Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 http://www.talkwrestlingonline.com/images/shows/raw2012.png When United States: Monday Night, Nov. 11, at 8/7c on the USA Network United Kingdom: Tuesday Morning, Nov. 12, at 1AM on SkySportsHD3 Venue Phones 4 U Arena in Manchester, England Confirmed Matches/Events Build to Survivor Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgehead Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Should be a good atmosphere tonight, UK crowds never disappoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH-Evolution Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Get ready for the obnoxious red telephone boxes, references to bad food and a Wade Barrett match! :lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViciousPrism Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 a Wade Barrett match! :lol lolno. Relegated to Dark Match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH-Evolution Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Oh bloody 'ell! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeSpirit Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I loooove the heels but Curtis Axel is the most boring f*cker alive. I'm getting to the stage where I would throw a house party if anyone beats him for the title (even Hornswoggle). Good RAW tonight so far from Manchester however!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgehead Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Is a Ryback face turn on the cards?? I sure hope so, he was one of my favourite guys on the roster as a face, used to really enjoy his handicap matches & double Shellshocks. He sucks as a heel. Looks like we're gonna get a 6 on 6 match at Survivor Series Good Raw, good crowd. Loved their "We are awesome" chant :lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENE Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Dont know if i'd spend my money on Raw again to much filler, three hours of crap for one hour of enjoyment. ADR must of been the joint least over last night alongside Khali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O the Wisp Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) Why did they put the union jack on heels? (3MB and Fandango) Is it meant ironically? I don't understand. Edited November 12, 2013 by Will O the Wisp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran The King Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Dont know if i'd spend my money on Raw again to much filler, three hours of crap for one hour of enjoyment. ADR must of been the joint least over last night alongside Khali. How did you find the TV recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENE Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 What do you mean? Like the parts where it just went black between matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran The King Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 As in from start to finish. I wouldn't personally attend a live TV show again, it felt disjointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran The King Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Overall the show was a 8/10, Cena v The Real Americans and the main event were both thrilling segments. The Shield/Wyatt's stare down was great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I was really looking forward to the 6v6 match that this show was advertising at Survivor Series, but apparently Punk/Bryan vs. Harper/Rowan is still the match. Boo for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I am so hyped for Cena vs Cesaro it is ridiculous. I didn't think I could have wanted it any more, and then they began working tags together and teasing me with all kinds of awesome shit. The Cena Giant Swing is going to be the best payoff in forever. Main event match and angle was great too. Think for a second about a main event filled with Bryan Danielson, CM Punk, Tyler Black, Jon Moxley, Brodie Lee, and nary a Cena/Orton/Hunter/McMahon/etc. in sight. Good times to be had people. Also was that the first time ever Punk has worked with the Shield? Tamina still irritates me, but there were parts of Tamina/Nikki I liked, Nikki looked good, Brie's dropkicks looked great, and anything involving the Divas is improved tenfold by watching it with the idea that AJ and Tamina are secret lesbian lovers. Dolph actually looked like a halfway competent babyface in his match, all credit to him. Although it wasn't hard to stand out as being good when you're working with F*ck A Curtis Axel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran The King Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I was really looking forward to the 6v6 match that this show was advertising at Survivor Series, but apparently Punk/Bryan vs. Harper/Rowan is still the match. Boo for that. What a massive letdown, after the brawl Monday night I was expecting a full on 6 v 6 at SS. Harper/Rowan v Punk/Bryan doesn't really entice me to buy the PPV (which I will) I was expecting a full on Bray Wyatt beatdown of Punk/Bryan at SS to really enhance/cement himself as a dangerous adversary to the main eventers in WWE. Also enjoyed the Shields 'we don't for anyone's speech' and Rollins reaction to being interrupted by the Wyatt's in the main was electric. I'm seeing Wyatt's v The Shield in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun2J Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 [video=youtube;YOhVj4ZagRA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 That was a good interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I don't mind not getting the 6 vs 6 match, as long as The Shield are in some sort of elimination match. These men were literally BORN to work a Survivor Series match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgehead Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Corporate Kane is really growing on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Redman Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I'm the opposite, although the fault doesn't lie so much with Kane himself as with it coinciding with me losing my interest in the Corporation angle. It has lurched over the hump where everything made sense and every segment was awesome, and now just feels like any other angle with interminably long promos. The Maddox/Vickie/Kane bitchfit that opened this show was one of the biggest pieces of shit on Raw in quite some time. The exact opposite of the great Hunter/Steph promos, it was just lazy, cliched authority figure overload at it's worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgehead Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Yeah the Vickie/Maddox segment was pretty sh*t but I'm intrigued by this change in Kane's gimmick. Its been said before but Kane turns heel/face about 27 times a year but this one feels fresh & original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran The King Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I'm intrigued by the Kane character as it's something we have never seen before from him. It's like he's finally given in and wants a corporate life. Although he's effectively part of the authority I can see dissection already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPIB Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 The conclusion to this week's RAW was one of the best that I've seen in a while. I loved The Shield and The Wyatt Family finally facing off and the culmination of a mega-brawl to end the show. If they end up doing The Shield vs. The Wyatt Family at Survivor Series, I will be happy with them not doing the 12-Man Tag that they teased (which they could still change it to, by the way). I was really hoping for Dolph to take the title off of Axel, but I really should have known better. Also, I like this idea of Heyman randomly cutting a promo every couple of weeks just to get senselessly beat down by Punk without it being any more complicated than that. Given the emotion going into Hell in a Cell between the two, the somewhat mild attack on Heyman at the pay-per-view was a bit underwhelming given the long build, so to have Punk assault Heyman every time that he sees him is quite a unique way to make up for it without doing something "beyond PG". It's kind of a modern day Kane/Pete Rose deal, but every couple weeks or every month instead of every year. Speaking of Kane, I would say that he is "growing on me", but I thought the gimmick change was brilliant (which leads me to believe that it was Kane who came up with it, not the creative team). Not only does it avoid a lot of awkwardness when it comes to promoting See No Evil 2, but it gives a humanizing twist to the character and, if Kane plans to retire anytime soon, this is the perfect character to do so with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran The King Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I saw no need for the Punk attack on Heyman on Monday as I feel it adds absolutely nothing to the feud which ended in my opinion at Summerslam!!! These two acts should be kept apart for a while now, there is no need for them to still be feuding. Heyman I feel would make a great partnership with Barrett who right now needs a strong return to TV. Heyman and Barrett together would make a formidable team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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