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Mayweather vs Alvarez 14-09-13


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Just looking to get your opinions on who you think it taking this and why.

 

After watching the all access episodes I genuinely think that Alvarez is in the best position to take Mayweather out this time compared to previous fighters. I think Alvarez has the power, the speed and the in ring ability to wear Mayweather down and maybe even hurt him late on. I think if anything Alvarez will work to hit anything hard regardless of weather it's arms, body or head and then unload as the fight goes on.

 

Who do you think takes it and why?

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I've been caught up in the hype. Usually don't watch all that much boxing, but God-damn do I love Money. I think this is his toughest fight since Oscar, but I still see him winning. I think he'll wear Alverez out, who's got to have some sort of problem with his weight for this fight, either losing it, or putting it back on after the weigh-in. I think Mayweather takes his time, breaks him down and finishes him late.

 

For anyone who isn't into this fight yet, watch these. Boxing continues to show UFC how you promote shit;

 

[video=youtube;HikEO2a_Tjw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HikEO2a_Tjw

 

[video=youtube;fTRWXNd8ZJI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTRWXNd8ZJI

 

[video=youtube;jt6K2ttXuw4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt6K2ttXuw4

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I'm gonna be at a mates watching this, with several large ones down us. Really looking forward to it, and just because I'd love to see Floyd finally do the job and put a younger guy over, I'm going for an Alvarez win!

 

Floyd goes in as favourite, so as is my custom, I'll be rooting for the underdog. I agree with Johnny, this is probably Mayweathers biggest test in years, and if Alvarez doesn't beat him, nobody ever will I don't think.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SwK7KW8Iiw

 

The live weigh-in for anyone interested. They just did Garcia/Matthysse, which is a fight I'm looking forward to more than the main event. Mayweather/Canelo will be such a massive fight though. The weigh in is a big event with thousands of fans, never mind the show tomorrow. They're going to explode for Canelo.

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"Forbes.com predict that the gross revenue for the event will far exceed $200million, shattering all records. All 16,200 tickets at the MGM Grand arena – priced from $350-$2000 – were snapped up within hours of release, generating live gate receipts of $20million. Seven blue chip sponsors have coughed up to $2million each in right's fees.

 

Mayweather, who has headed Forbes magazine's listing as the highest earner in all of sport for two consecutive years now, will trouser a guaranteed $41.5million. And that is BEFORE his substantial slice of the US pay-per-view revenue which, at $75 a pop, some say is to obliterate the previous record takings – if not the 2.4million buy up – for Mayweather's 2007 mega match with 'Golden Boy' Oscar De La Hoya."

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Oh no doubt, but they have to understand the reasons why. I mean really, Mayweather doesnt work for anybody, he is his own enterprise and he is THE reason anybody gives a shit and forks out all that money so he makes his own terms and deserves what he gets. All those UFC guys work for White and the Frank and Lorenzo etc, they have contracts. I mean, its such a different structure, I hate when the media dick heads like that scruffy English pr*ck Gareth whatever his name is asks Dana about the pay in the scrums and acts like he doesnt get it.
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Yeah I'm sure they take a nice PPV cut and also a majority cut of the advertising money seeing as the advertisers stuff is broadcast on their station during count down shows. Cant imagine they get a penny of the gate though or the merch although you never see alot of merch at these things outside of the program and some shirts.

 

Reality is, Showtime work for Mayweather more than he works for them, I'm certain of that. They would bow down to him in a second on anything he wanted to keep him happy.

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Mayweather is a co-promoter with GBP (Golden Boy Promotions) for all of his events. That deal is only in place so that he can choose his own fights, whereas if he was solely promoted by them, they could pick and choose anyone in the sport and he'd have no real bargaining power to reject opponents. He will pick and choose who he wants to fight but GBP do all the promoting for him. It's a similar deal to what Amir Khan, David Haye and several other fighters have. They don't want to be boxed in with a promotional deal but at the same time, there's no way they can get the good TV deals and exposure without one of the biggest promoters out there, so they have to work with promoters like Golden Boy or Top Rank. Mayweather's promotional company is TMT (The Money Team) and every fighter he has will also work with GBP.

 

As for how the TV deals and purses work, for a PPV fight, the TV companies will guarantee a fighter a certain amount of money and then they'll be given a bonus on top of that. Showtime will take the majority of the money the event generates and the fighters will be given a much smaller percentage. The promotional companies and managers will be the ones who negotiate with the TV companies before the fight is signed, to make sure they get a good deal. Fights on regular TV work the same way, except the boxers don't get any additional bonuses if it's a success or not.

 

These are just general rules though and there are cases where it's different, including for mandatory defences and things like that. The business side of boxing is pretty complex, to say the least.

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The size difference when they're in the ring will be interesting. Floyd won't have dehydrated, so he'll be in the ring at 150lbs or so. Canelo usually enters the ring at 168lbs+, and I imagine he'll do the same again. If he can manage to use that extra weight in his favour, it's a big advantage for him. He's already a strong junior middleweight and he's fighting a fairly small welterweight, so that's a big plus. The only question is whether can enforce that though. Mayweather is one of the best defensive fighters I've ever seen and no matter how strong an opponent is, if they can't hit him, they can't hurt him.

 

As good as the main event is, the main undercard fight, Garcia/Matthysse, will be a cracker. The power Matthysse has is insane.

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Holy shit, Cano's Dia de los Muertos dude is the best thing I've ever seen in a boxing ring.

 

EDIT: What a f*cking snoozer of a card. I'm probably missing some business technicality, but I never get why promoters don't just absolutely stack the undercard on huge fights like this to keep a bit of interest. I'm watching for Mayweather, and I doubt I'll see another boxing match until he does again, if then.

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