Muppets to Guest Star on RAW (No, really)

[Guest Dante Spears]

The Muppets come to Raw on Halloween night

September 19, 2011

 

To celebrate their first theatrical release in more than a decade – Disney’s "The Muppets," opening this Thanksgiving – the Muppets will step into the ring on the Oct. 31 WWE Raw SuperShow to mix it up with the Superstars in Atlanta.

 

In the new film, "The Muppets," the crew is on a mission to save the Muppet Theater from demolition. But before that, they'll have to save themselves from our Superstars!

[The Muppets official movie trailer - In theaters Thanksgiving day]

 

What will happen when Kermit the Frog meets The Viper? Will the Divas make Miss Piggy flip with jealousy? Will Beaker be confused for Sheamus? On Halloween, it's time to play the music, it's time to light the lights, because the Muppets are about to get Raw!

I...no...what.....really?

[Maxximus 353]

I love the Muppets as much as anyone else, but guest starring on Raw?

 

No. That's just stupid. I don't care if it's Helloween. Nothing on the face of the Earth could convince me that this is a good idea. This is just more proof that a corporate run pro wrestling promotion really doesn't give a shit about what their fans as long as they're making a ton of money off the deal. They know people will watch no matter what.

 

I dare some one to bring a valid argument to the table justifying this beyond what I've already stated and don't give me that "Oh, it's just for the kiddies, settle down" crap.

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

While I hear you, I think it will be fine for some comedic fodder. Vickie will meet Miss Piggy, and so forth.

 

This doesnt offend me any more than other wacky guest hosts.

[etz 78]

Vickie and Miss Piggie isn't funny though. It just makes me want to legit strangle the writers. Slowly, with razor wire...

 

It's like all that Piggie James crap. I wanted to set the writers on fire, and Laycool and James too, for being being too spineless to tell WWE to take their crappy offensive bullshit angle and shove it sideways up their ass so it can bleed to death from anal hemorrhaging.

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

I didnt mean it in a "LOL Vickie fat jokes are funny" way. They're not really.

 

But to me, there's still something in that, after the years of the Vickie angle (whether its a bad angle or not), she's actually going to come face to face with Miss Piggy on television. As long as they dont go overboard, the idea of them meeting is funny.

 

Reminds me of Allison Janney meeting Big Bird when the Muppets did the West Wing.

[Maxximus 353]

Dude, I was so shocked by the announcement that I didn't bother to think it through. You have a good point. A Vickie G/Miss Piggy meet up has potential for comedy gold and how awesome would it be if they were able to book a match between the two and pull it off? At least they'll easily be better guest hosts than The Osbournes were.

 

Still, this feels like fan fiction and it bugs the hell out of me and I have been so patient and optimistic with the WWE over the past year. I've done really well at distancing myself from picking every little thing apart like I used to, calling everything crap just because I didn't like the main event scene, or there was some stupid angle, or promo I hated. Look, I can go on and on as I'm sure everyone else can.

 

I have enjoyed Raw and Smackdown so much more now that I totally phased out the cynical critic side and take it for what it is. I don't mean that in a bad way. This has been a great year for them. It still is. I love my Monday and Friday nights in front of the television. But, c'mon, every fan has their threshold for inane garbage and I guess this must be mine. I was honestly furious when I read the OP. I've since calmed down and I'll continue to like the product, and maybe that's my biggest problem. The WWE is a product. There is still some heart and emotion involved but it all seems so prepackaged and that hurts my feelings. I guess "it's still real to me dammit."

 

I understand and recognize how silly it is for a grown man to be so upset about The Muppets on a pro wrestling show and I wish I could fully explain, but the words fail me. I think I've made a mess out of trying to make myself clear, but I honestly don't quite fully understand why this put me on the verge of an ALL CAPS RAGE. With everything the WWE has become this shouldn't surprise me at all but it did.

 

At least I can still find the humor in this. I bet TNA is thinking, "Damn! That's exactly what we need to get over. The Muppets. Why didn't we think of that."

 

 

eta: I love The Muppets and I love my pro wrestling, but I can't stomche the idea of the Muppets in my pro wrestling.

Edited September 20, 2011 by Maxximus

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

No I know. I'm not blaming you or anyone else for hating this. When I first read it I was like "WTF?" If you need to get angry, get angry. I was only answering your question.

[Maxximus 353]

Sorry, Jim. I wasn't directing all of that towards you. I just needed to vent. It was mostly for myself and trying to understand what it was about it that bothered me so much. Now that I got it out I feel better. I wasn't being sarcastic about the Vickie/Miss Piggy thing if that's how it appeared. I honestly think it would be pretty funny.

[dsrchris 190]

I wanna be kinda peeved about this, but the prospect of Statler and Waldorf ragging on the roster from a balcony/skybox makes me want to watch.

[Guest Horowitz]

Ryder spiking beakers hair?

[dsrchris 190]

If they treat it as a one-off and have everyone be all "WTF are muppets doing here?" it could be quite fun.

[Paul 584]

No! Just f*cking no! Wrestling + fictional characters (not already in wrestling...) = sh*t, every single time. Robocop. Chucky. Now this. No, just no.

[Guest John Hancock]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of the Robocop situation when they heard of this.

 

Yeah, completely ridiculous idea. The muppets are great, but they have no place here. Every WWE wrestler who spends so much as a second talking to a felt puppet like it's a real person is going to be instantly dead in the water credibility-wise.

[Paul 584]

Yeah, a small handful could get away with it. Santino, Hornswaggle and maybe Ryder, otherwise no.

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

Cena could pull it off. He IS a muppet.

[etz 78]

Well, certainly the human equivalent of a muppets character anyway :P

[Guest the HiTman]

Is all the action going to be on the outside edge of the ring opposite side to the camera?

 

At least taker will be able to do his 'old skool' leg drop on some Muppet. :xyx

 

Main event is obviously:

Animal vs Animal

with special guest referee 'The Count' 1 ahah, 2 ahah, 3 ahah.

 

Lame.

[Paul 584]

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[Guest Horowitz]

I fear for who they will ruin with this with some demeaning comeuppance/angle.

There should be a book on this imo. With some kind of crap prize. Or not.

 

Anywhooooo, my moneys on Swagger.

[Guest Saz]

Funny, I must be the only one who will be looking forward to it...

 

WWE is for kids, so is the muppets, let's not try get too up in arms about it as though WWE is the national ballet or anything :)

[Paul 584]

WWE is for kids, but wrestling requires a suspension of disbelief, you think the 10+ age catagory will be able to do that with kermit onscreen with any but comedy characters? The second a serious character interacts with a muppet is the second that kids will think its utter shit (and I dont know why but I expect it to be Randy Orton -the wrestler, not as a muppet).

[DC 536]

Every WWE wrestler who spends so much as a second talking to a felt puppet like it's a real person is going to be instantly dead in the water credibility-wise.

It hasn't seemed to affect any of the major-league Hollywood stars (Samuel L. Jackson, Hugh Jackman, etc, etc) who have interacted with the muppets on both Sesame Street and The Muppet Show as if they were real and not a puppet voiced by someone off-screen, so I don't see why a wrestler would automatically lose credibility.

 

Surely it'll depend on how the interaction is done rather than just the fact it's done at all.

[Guest John Hancock]

That's a completely different context though. Samuel L. Jackson was in the Muppets, if Kermit the frog popped up in Pulp Fiction and Jackson started talking to him, it would be ridiculous. The Muppets appearing on RAW is a completely different thing to WWE wrestlers appearing on the Muppet Show.

[etz 78]

With celebrities appearing on the muppet show, it's Samuel Jackson etc. preserving Muppet kayfabe. If they didn't, it'd be like some celebrity appearing on RAW and calling all the wrestlers by their real names and discussing working and planning match outcomes on TV.

 

Bringing the Muppets on RAW and expecting wrestlers to treat them as real isn't even close to the same thing.

[Guest Saz]

That's a completely different context though. Samuel L. Jackson was in the Muppets, if Kermit the frog popped up in Pulp Fiction and Jackson started talking to him, it would be ridiculous.

 

I disagree, if Kermit popped up in Pulp Fiction it would have lourded great praise upon Tarantino for his great insight into what makes pop culture so popular followed by the whole question, what is real? The glorified sock puppet or the advice he imparts...

 

Plus with the fine sword skills Kermit showed in Muppet Treasure Island, he wouldn't have looked out of place in Kill Bill and it's sequel Kill Bill:part 2.

 

:)

Edited September 21, 2011 by Saz