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Sheffield Arena in Sheffield, England


Last week's edition of Monday Night RAW scored a 3.4 rating, which was down from the previous week's 3.7 number.


Confirmed Matches/Events


Ricky "The Hitman" Hatton to serve as Guest Host


Build To Survivor Series

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I'm glad I wasn't the first one to point it out.


Hatton is just a ball of charisma, isn't he? :lol


Surely the worst host to date. If he was any more boring and uninterested, he would have been asleep; much like I almost was. I even thought about letting RAW record and watching a movie or play video games or something and just watch it later so I could skip through the crap. Granted, that would have been about an hour and forty-five minutes of the show.


I am not sure if it was Hatton, the booking or both, but RAW was really terrible this week from start to finish.


The only real highlight for me was Evan Bourne actually winning a match by pinfall. Now if they could only have him win a match over someone important on his own, that would be a step in the right direction to me.


When I think of the past RAW broadcasts that came from the UK, this one really disappointed.


I guess they wanted to make this one suck so that it would make next week's show in Madison Square Garden look even better.


The MSG show looks to be good; Roddy Piper will be the Guest Host and it will have quite the unique main event that should build Survivor Series up quite nicely with Cena & Undertaker facing DX and Jeri-Show in a Triple Threat Tag Match. It should have a lot of interesting elements in it, to say the least.


For those looking for a flawless show, keep in mind that Melina Vs. Alicia Fox for the Divas Title is booked to take place next week as well. They couldn't have pawned this crap shoot of a match onto WWE Superstars?

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Man, that Ricky looked like shit. And I don't think it's that he doesn't give a damn, I think it's more of a "I'm a boxer so I lost some brain cells being struck in the head to often" kind of thing. I mean, look at a guy like Mike Tyson, he isn't all 100% there.


But next week, RAW is gonna have, possibly, one of the best shows of 2009 if you look at the potential.


- new theme song (which sounds pretty cool even though I'm not a Nickelback fan)

- hosted by the Rowdy one

- at Madison Square Garden

- with a HUGE main event DX vs Jeri-Show vs Cena & Undertaker


Yeah, this really could be a HUGE raw, as far as the girls match goes, I think Melina has at least got something going for her. But against Alicia Fox? Oh please.

I just hope they do this as an opening match.


I wonder if Piper will get into action, maybe we will see Snuka or Steamboat there, maybe both :o)

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WWE RAW Tapings

The Sheffield Arena

9th November 2009


We start off with a look back at last week’s match between John Cena, Big Show, and Chris Jericho where Jericho got the pin thanks to Big Show. Then we saw DX come to Cena’s aid but it didn’t work out so well.

We are live on tape from Sheffield, United Kingdom and your announcers are Jerry ‘Where is my match against Johnny Saint’ Lawler and Michael ‘Vintage tape delay’ Cole.


Justin Roberts brings out the guest host for tonight’s show, Ricky Hatton. He is joined by the official arm candy of the Raw Guest Hosts, the Bella Twins. Hatton says hello to the fans and he welcomes everyone to Raw. He says that he didn’t have to think about accepting the offer. He talks about the memories that he has in this building and we see highlights. He says that winning the World Title was the best memory of his career. He says that he considers himself to be a fan of the people.


Speaking of people, Chris Jericho and Big Show come to the ring. Jericho and Show get in Hatton’s face and Show says that he had a good breakfast today and it was bigger than Hatton. Show says that it is no big deal knocking people out because he has done it before. Show tells Hatton to get out of their ring before he makes a memory that Hatton will never forget. Hatton asks Show why does he have to be like that. Hatton says that he is a fan of Show, especially when Show got knocked out by one of the boxers. Show says that since Hatton loved that moment, he will give Mayweather the same opportunity, a free shot in the chin. However, after Hatton taps him, he gets to knock Hatton out. He wants to know if Hatton wants a shot at him. Hatton says that he is up to the challenge as soon as he gets a ladder. Show gets down on his knees and he is slightly shorter than Hatton.


Jericho stops Hatton just before he makes contact. Jericho tells the little man to hold it. Jericho says that he will not let Show be embarrassed by another low life boxer. He says that Show already has to worry about the match at Survivor Series. Jericho says that he is at the highest point of his career. He is single handedly responsible for Smackdown’s win at Bragging Rights. He beat John Cena last week. He will beat Undertaker on Friday and then he will win the title at Survivor Series.


Show tells Napoleon Jericho to calm down because he is going to be the one winning the title. Hatton says that are going to wrestle DX tonight. Jericho says that Hatton is just as bad as the rest of the dentally challenged plonkers in the crowd. Jericho mentions the Royal family and calls Queen Elizabeth a hypocrite. Hatton says that he did not understand a word that Jericho said and he tells Jericho to speak their language since they are in England. Jericho says that he will speak slower for the punch drunk Hatton. Hatton tells Jericho to get out of his face.


Show and Jericho surround Hatton but it doesn’t matter because Degeneration X make their way to the ring. Hunter gets on the mic and he wants to know how many times it will take before they interrupt the general managers and get humiliated. Hunter mentions Shaquille O’Neal and Bob Barker. Hunter says that Hatton was about ten seconds from knocking Jericho and Show out. Hunter thanks Ricky for the match and he tells Hatton not to worry about the Honney Monster and Mr. Bean. Shawn doesn’t want to wait and he punches Jericho and Jericho goes to the floor. Show takes off his jacket and rolls up the largest sleeves in Sports Entertainment and he leaves the ring with his tag team partner.


Hunter says that is the way it goes because there is only one Degneration X, just like there is only one Ricky Hatton. Hatton gives us the two words and then they pose.


We go to commercial.


We are back with the Slam of the Week: Alicia Fox is the new number one contender.


Match Number One: Kelly Kelly with Gail Kim versus Alicia Fox with Jillian Hall


They go face to face and Alicia with a pie face but Kelly with a Thesz Press and punches. Alicia back into the turnbuckles but Alicia with a drop toe hold and then she slams Kelly’s face into the mat and gets a near fall. We see Melina watching in the back. Kelly with forearms but Alicia with a clothesline and slams her head into the mat again. Kelly with a jawbreaker and clotheslines. Kelly with a screaming rana after Alicia misses a charge into the corner. Kelly with a leg drop for a leg lariat for a near fall. Kelly tries for a head scissors but Alicia hot shots Kelly and then hits the scissors kick for the three count.

Winner: Alicia Fox


We take a look back at the festivities surrounding getting Wrestlemania 26 tickets (the real 25th Anniversary).


Ricky Hatton is walking in the back with his son and they finally get to John Cena. Cena tells Hatton that he is doing a good job so far but he wants to know what he is going to do tonight.


We are back and it is time to take a look back at what happened to Jamie Noble last week on Raw.


Sheamus comes out and he says that he told us he would end Noble’s career and he did it. Sheamus says that he is going to do what any Irishman would do and that is go through the Englishman. Match Number Two: Sheamus versus Some British Guy


Sheamus with a hip toss and then he kicks his opponent in the chest and connects with a forearm to the back. Sheamus with a hard Irish whip. Sheamus sends him back into the turnbuckles. Sheamus with a double sledge and elbow drops. Sheamus with a uranage back breaker and then he hits the bicycle kick and then he finishes his opponent with an Outsider Edge for the three count.

Winner: Sheamus


We go to commercial.


We are back and we see the Hatton Health and Fitness Center.


The Bellas thank Ricky for showing him around Sheffield. Ricky talks about his clothing line that the Bellas are wearing. The Bellas ask for dart lessons from Ricky. Santino enters and he says that he is Ricky Fatton since Ricky has put on a few pounds. Chavo enters and talks about how Santino is sucking up to the host. Chavo says that he is a good dart player and Hatton accepts the challenge. Chavo challenges Santino and Hatton says that they should do a boxer against a wrestler and Hatton says that he is going to get in the ring with Chavo.


Josh Mathews is with The Miz in the interview area. Josh asks Miz about his team at Survivor Series and Miz reminds everyone that he was the only Raw wrestler to win a match and he defeated the captain of his opponent’s team. Miz says that his team is full of winners and the future of the company. Swagger interrupts the catchphrase and says that Miz is in awe of Swagger. Swagger tells Miz to watch what he is going to do to Evan Bourne tonight. Miz points out that he beat Bourne last week. They argue and then we go to commercial.


Match Number Three: Evan Bourne versus Jack Swagger


Swagger picks up Bourne and drives him into the mat. Swagger sends Bourne into the turnbuckles. Swagger with an Irish whip and then he drops Bourne to the mat again. Bourne with the double jump Vader Splash for a near fall. Swagger takes some time away from wearing down his opponent to do some push ups. Swagger stretches Bourne and then sends him into the turnbuckles. Swagger with shoulders in the corner. Swagger runs into a knee and then he hits a version of Shadows over Hell for a near fall. Bourne with a kick to the leg but Swagger with punches. Bourne with a double knee press for a near fall.


In the middle of the match, The Miz comes out and Swagger with a belly-to-belly suplex to impress his captain. Swagger with a suplex attempt fro the apron but Bourne with a knee to the head and then Bourne with a kick and the Shooting Star Press for the three count.

Winner: Evan Bourne


After the match, Miz reminds Jack that he is the captain because he is able to do catchphrases.


Mark Henry keeps the building from falling and then he walks to the ring with Montel Vontavious Porter and we go to commercial.


We take a look at Kyle Busch’s victory in the Nationwide Series race in the Smackdown vs. Raw car.


We are in the World Strongest VIP Lounge and Montel Vontavious Porter and Mark Henry are in the ring. Porter welcomes us while Mark Henry wants to introduce their guest. He talks about how their guest has come out of his shell over the last few weeks and he is their captain. That man is Kofi Kingston. Porter thanks Kofi for selecting them to be a part of his team for Survivor Series. Kofi says that he couldn’t have a team without Mark Henry and Montel Vontavious Porter. Porter talks about what Kofi did to Randy Orton’s car. He says that Kofi made a statement that he will not be pushed around by anyone on the roster. Henry says that was good, but this was better and we see the six man tag match from last week.


Kofi says that was only a taste of what they have in store for Survivor Series. Porter wants to make a toast before Mark Henry’s match with Randy Orton. They toast Kofi.


Legacy makes their way to the ring and the bouncer does not let him in at first, but he looks for the word from Porter and they are let in.


Orton says that they are acting like they are sitting on top of the world now, but they are nothing but a bunch of low class street thugs. Mark Henry stole a victory last week. Porter is the definition of the common criminal. He says that Kofi should be in jail for what he did to Orton’s car. Orton says that the stock car was custom. Orton says that he is waiting to deal with Kofi until Survivor Series.


Rhodes says that Porter looks ‘VIP’ but his surroundings are not VIP. He has a disgruntled outcast and an ex-con. DiBiase talks about how Porter’s bank account pales in comparison to his. Porter reminds Ted that it is his dad’s. Orton says that they were born into the business but they belong in the hood. Kofi slaps Orton and Orton stares away for a second while Ted and Cody hold him back. We go to commercial.


Match Number Four: Randy Orton versus Mark Henry


Henry pushes Orton down to the mat while the other four in the ring during the VIP Lounge are at ringside. Orton with a side head lock but Henry with a shoulder tackle. Orton with a kick to the knee and a drop toe hold and then he punches Henry in the corner. Henry with a bear hug and a clothesline for a near fall. Orton with the Garvin Stomp and the leaping knee drop for a near fall. Orton with a kick to the head and then he puts Henry in a front face lock. Orton gets a near fall and then he hits a series of knee drops to the head. Orton with a viper like reverse chin lock. Henry with a slam for a near fall. Orton with punches but Henry with a punch of his own and a clothesline. Henry with a splash into the corner followed by head butts. Orton tries for a sunset flip and that is a bit of a mistake because Henry does not go over. Henry pulls Orton up but Orton hits the RKO out of nowhere for the three count.

Winner: Randy Orton


After the match, Kofi checks on Henry and Orton grabs Kofi and slaps him but Kofi punches Orton back.


Chavo is shadow boxing in the back and we go to commercial.


Match Number Five: Chavo Guerrero versus Ricky Hatton


Chavo and Ricky go face to face during the explanation of the rules for the match. Chavo goes outside the ring to avoid Hatton. Chavo gets into the ropes to frustrate Hatton. Chavo goes to the floor again after a punch to the midsection. Chavo with a double leg take down while Hatton punches Chavo. Chavo with a kick and forearms but Hatton with a punch and Chavo is out.

Winner: Ricky Hatton


We go to commercial.


We are back and did you know that WWE.com is more popular than MLB.com despite the playoffs.


It is time to run through the card for Survivor Series.


John Cena is with Hornswoggle and he tells Hornswoggle that DX is serious. Cena tells Hornswoggle to hide while DX enters the locker room. Shawn says that he saw the leprechaun come in. Cena tells DX to focus on their opponents for tonight. Cena mentions their match at Survivor Series. Cena points out that he is the odd man out. They start to throw out double entendres about Twitter and then they return to the talk about their match at Survivor Series. Hunter says that one of the members of DX will walk out with the title. Shawn wants to know where the leprechaun is. Cena tells Hornswoggle to come out and Hornswoggle is wearing Cena gear. Hornswoggle does the ‘You Can’t See Me’ thing.


DX leaves and Hornswoggle returns to his DX gear and he crotch chops away and grunts.


Big Show and Chris Jericho walk in the back after talking for a few seconds. We go to commercial.


We are back and since they are in the United Kingdom, we have to show footage from a pub. Maybe it was necessary for the Really Raw Recap from last week with the Osbournes.


We find out that Roddy Piper is the guest host next week on Raw from Madison Square Garden (in the arena portion, not the lobby).


John Cena comes to the ring before the main event. Then he joins Lawler and Cole at the announce table.


Match Number Six: Chris Jericho and Big Show versus Degeneration X


Jericho and Michaels start things off and Jericho with a side head lock and shoulder tackle. Jericho runs into a chop from Michaels. Hunter tags in and he punches Jericho and then Irish whips Jericho but Jericho with a boot. Jericho punches and kicks Hunter but Hunter with the high knee. Hunter catapults Jericho over the top rope to the floor and we go to commercial.


We are back and Michaels is now in the match and Jericho with a kick. Show is tagged in and he chokes Shawn. Michaels with a drop kick to the knee and he gets a near fall. Show grabs Jericho by the neck and tosses him to the mat. Jericho tags back in and he works on Michaels’ neck. Jericho with a knee lift and then he sends Michaels into the turnbuckles. Jericho tags in Show and he knocks Michaels to the mat. Hunter is tagged in and he punches Show. Hunter with a jawbuster and he tries for the Pedigree but Show with a back body drop. Show with a spear to Hunter and then he punches Hunter in the midsection. Jericho tags in and he kicks and punches Hunter in the corner. Show chokes Hunter while Jericho shuffles in the center of the ring to distract the referee. Jericho with a chin lock. Jericho with a knee to the midsection and he gets a near fall. Show tags back in and they make a wish with Hunter’s legs and then Show walks across Hunter’s chest and stands on his back. Hunter with a boot to Show but Show with a clothesline. Show with a splash for a near fall. Show with a waist lock on Hunter. Show with a punch and head butt before he tags Jericho back into the match.


Hunter punches Jericho and Jericho runs Hunter into the corner. Jericho with punches and kicks and the referee pulls Jericho out of the corner. Jericho with punches but Hunter counters the bulldog attempt with a spinebuster and both men are down. Michaels tags in and he punches Jericho and hits the flying forearm followed by the kip up and a reverse atomic drop and punch and then he liked it so much he did it again. Michaels with a slam and then he knocks Show off the apron and then he goes up top for the vintage elbow drop from the top turnbuckle. Michaels gets ready for Sweet Chin Music but Jericho moves out of the way. Michaels powers out of a Walls of Jericho attempt. Show splashes Michaels and Jericho in the corner and then Show accidentally punches Jericho when Michaels moves. Hunter with a clothesline that sends him and Show over the top rope to the floor. Michaels gets the three count.

Winners: Degeneration X


After the match, Justin Roberts announces that the main event next week will be a Triple Threat Tag Team Match involving all six men in the World Title matches with John Cena and The Undertaker joining the two teams that appeared in tonight’s main event. The Undertaker comes out.


End of show!

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I'm not sure if it was the sound system, but the crowd sounded dead for the whole show.

Only 2 highlights for me were Sheamus saying he'd do what Irish people do best and beat an Englishman, and doing it... That was sweet.

And I liked how realistic Hatton's punch on Chavo looked, even if he only hit him with his palm.

Overall though, a sh*t show.

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Raw seriously sucks. How people watch this shit without laughing or saying "what the f*ck," is beyond me. I dunno, maybe I'm getting old and the world has moved on. Alicia Fox must be really good with her mouth because she didn't get her spot with her ring work.


Only reason I still watch Raw is to laugh at the stupidity and to see Jerishow. I'm sure they'll ruin that soon as well.

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I'm not sure if it was the sound system, but the crowd sounded dead for the whole show.

Only 2 highlights for me were Sheamus saying he'd do what Irish people do best and beat an Englishman, and doing it... That was sweet.

And I liked how realistic Hatton's punch on Chavo looked, even if he only hit him with his palm.

Overall though, a sh*t show.


The crowd were into it quite alot. It may have seemed less like it on tele.


The show was shit to be fair but it was wresling so i enjoyed it non the less. *** i was there. There was like 6 nob heads infront of me whp did not shut the **** up all the way through, talking about everything except the show. And they all seemed to have bladder problems.


Good news though, i met MVP and he was really cool. Sound guy. He signd my tickets and we shook hands. His arms are huge. Also he threw out a pen and i caught it. Awsome!

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Crap show as always. Watched it in about 15 minutes on Sky+


I do this to , and last nights show was one of the quickest watches of all time, maybe half of me just wanted to go play Modern Warfare 2, but the main reason was what an awful show.


I always watch all of Smackdown and ECW and 90% of iMPACT , so its in the show for sure.

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Maybe it's just me, but I am yet to see Alicia Fox hit that Scissors Kick without stumbling after she hits it.


If she's going to pretend to be Booker T's daughter, she needs to shape up. By the way, that's about the only logical reason why they have her be like a younger Sharmell.


It's kind of amusing to me that I could understand Ozzy Osbourne better than I did Ricky Hatton.

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Alicia and Kelly did not look good today. Kelly hit her finish on Alicia and they did that botched kickout (how do you botch a kickout?!) on ONE and killed it. I'm probably the only person in the entire world who realised that it was, in fact, Kelly's finish and was thus angry about it, but surely the people putting this match together would realise that they were killing her finish? And Alicia botched the scissors kick too, although she has made it look quite good before.


Alicia v Melina next week, considering their respective runs of work lately, is a frightening prospect.


Anywho Raw was completely sh*tty as usual. Hatton was sh*t, the crowd was sh*t (no offense guys), the WWE Title 'feud' is sh*t, burying Swagger's undefeated angle was sh*t. The women's match was very sub-par, Swagger/Evan was good but short and completely stupid, the main event was fairly boring and overshadowed by Cena talking. Cena talking was OK, another one of those times where you just think 'Man, he really knows how to talk, but he's given absolutely nothing good to say.'


Orton/Henry as a match was just sort of there, but at least it surrounded an interesting angle (barely covered racism aside), and I swear Orton & Kofi is easily the only thing redeeming Raw at the moment. If their angle wasnt happening I really wouldnt mind if I miss Raw.


This f*cking show.

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the crowd was sh*t


I think crowds can ruin shows sometimes for example i was watching No Surrender and TNA was actually doing some good stuff (young cheating Herdenez out his title shot) and the fans where dead, i can't imaginge anything worse for a wrestler to be working hard and hearing nothing back

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