Cutting the WWE roster

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

Yes, obviously a blatant rip off from the TNA thread. But with that, the release of Trinity and the Draft it does bear thinking about as well. Same deal, how many wrestlers each brand needs, who they are, and the structure of the cards of the brands. If TNA can make do with 20 wrestlers, ECW can only have 15 (they only have 19 as it is, made a smaller number to allow cuts). Raw and Smackdown can have 25 each. Only includes wrestlers, managers, Divas, and you cant switch anyone to another brand or bring anyone else in. Go!

 

I'll do mine in a second.

 

SD roster

Raw roster

ECW roster

Edited June 23, 2007 by Jimmy Redman

[Guest The Beltster]

Just a WTF kinda thing...but WTF is King Leonidas doing on the SD! stars page?!

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

I know.

 

Anywho, here goes nothing.

 

RAW

 

Main event faces:

Bobby Lashley

John Cena

Shawn Michaels

Triple H

 

Main event heels:

Randy Orton

King Booker

Mr. Kennedy

 

Midcard (of various degrees) faces:

Jeff Hardy

Brian Kendrick

Paul London

Super Crazy

Val Venis

 

Midcard heels:

William Regal

Carlito

Umaga w/ Estrada

Trevor Murdoch

Lance Cade

Shelton Benjamin

 

Divas faces:

Maria

Candice Michelle

Mickie James

 

Divas heels:

Melina Perez

Jillian Hall

Queen Sharmell

 

Smackdown

 

Main event faces:

Batista

Rey Mysterio

Undertaker

 

Main event heels:

Edge

MVP

Finlay w/Hornswaggle (upper midcard role)

 

Midcard faces:

Brett Major

Brian Major

Jimmy Yang

Matt Hardy

Ric Flair

Kane

 

Midcard heels:

Chris Masters

Deuce

Domino

Gregory Helms

Hardcore Holly

Jamie Noble

Kenny Dykstra

 

Divas:

Cherry

Michelle McCool

Victoria

Krystal

 

ECW

 

Main event faces:

Chris Benoit

CM Punk

 

Main event heels:

Elijah Burke

Marcus Cor Von

 

Midcard faces:

Balls Mahoney

Boogeyman

Nunzio

Tommy Dreamer

Viscera

 

Midcard heels:

Johhny Nitro

Kevin Thorn

Matt Striker

Stevie Richards

Miz w/ Kelly Kelly

 

So that means I'm rid of:

Charlie Haas

Daivari

Jim Duggan

JTG

Shad

Highlanders

Sandman

Santino Marella

Shane McMahon

Snitsky

Roddy Piper

Steve Austin

Ashley

Chavo Guerrero

Dave Taylor

Eugene

Funaki

Maryse

Shannon Moore

Great Khali

Torrie Wilson

Vickie Guerrero

Brooke

Layla

Mike Knox

Edited June 23, 2007 by Jimmy Redman

[Guest dpddave]

I really want to do this but im lazy...the one thing i will say though is id have nitro as my main heel on ECW. Hes much better than monty and burke IMO

if he could improve his mike skills he'd go a long way..

[Dead Crow 370]

Raw

Bobby Lashley

Brian Kendrick

Carlito

Charlie Haas

Daivari

Jeff Hardy

Jillian

John Cena

King Booker

Lance Cade

Maria

Melina

Mickie James

Mr. Kennedy

Paul London

Queen Sharmell

Randy Orton

Sandman

Shawn Michaels

Shelton Benjamin

Trevor Murdoch

Triple H

Umaga

Val Venis

William Regal

 

SmackDown

Batista

Chavo Guerrero

Cherry

Chris Masters

Dave Taylor

Deuce

Domino

Edge

Finlay

Gregory Helms

Hardcore Holly

Hornswoggle

Jamie Noble

Jimmy Wang Yang

Kane

Kenny Dykstra

Krystal

Mark Henry

Matt Hardy

MVP

Rey Mysterio

Ric Flair

The Great Khali

The Undertaker

Victoria

 

ECW

Balls Mahoney

Brooke

Chris Benoit

Elijah Burke

Johnny Nitro

Kevin Thorn

Layla

Marcus Cor Von

Matt Striker

Nunzio

Rob Van Dam

Stevie Richards

The Miz

Tommy Dreamer

Viscera

[Guest dpddave]

you left the most over guy on the ECW roster out :?

[Paul 584]

you left the most over guy on the ECW roster out :?

 

No, Chris benoit is still there.

[Dead Crow 370]

No, Chris benoit is still there.

 

So is RVD, and he got written out.

 

So the most over are fully catered for :)

[Guest dpddave]

Really watch the crowd reaction when benoit walked out after the punk/cor von match...

 

Oh thats right he didnt get one!!!

[Dead Crow 370]

So by your reckoning, Mickie James is the most over person on Raw.

 

She did afterall get a monster reaction on one show...

[Paul 584]

Really watch the crowd reaction when benoit walked out after the punk/cor von match...

 

Oh thats right he didnt get one!!!

 

Benoit gets one of the consistantly highest pops. Much like Matt Hardy.

[Naitch 207]

Does anyone get a reaction on ECW? The times I've watched it, the crowd all seems to be sitting on their hands. You could bring The Rock out next week and you could probably hear a cockroach fart in the cheap seats.

[Guest Wolverine]

Raw

 

Main event faces:

 

John Cena

Mr. Kennedy

Bobby Lashley

 

Main event heels:

 

Randy Orton

Umaga

Triple H

 

Midcard faces:

 

Jeff Hardy

Sandman

Santino Marella

Paul London

Brian Kendrick

Val Venis

Super Crazy

Candice

Mickie James

 

Midcard heels:

 

King Booker (w/Queen Sharmell)

William Regal

Shelton Benjamin

Lance Cade

Trevor Murdoch

Melina

Jillian

 

SmackDown

 

Main event faces

 

Undertaker

Batista

Rey Mysterio

 

Main event heels

 

Edge

MVP

The Great Khali

 

Midcard faces

 

Matt Hardy

Ric Flair

Hardcore Holly

Jamie Noble

Jimmy Wang Yang

Funaki

Victoria

 

Midcard heels

 

Mark Henry

Finlay

Chavo Guerrero

Gregory Helms

Kenny Dykstra

Chris Masters

Dave Taylor

Deuce

Domino

Kristal

 

ECW

 

Main event faces

 

Chris Benoit

Marcus Cor Von

 

Main event heels

 

Johnny Nitro

Elijah Burke

 

Midcard faces

 

Viscera

Boogeyman

Balls Mahoney

Nunzio

 

Midcard heels

 

The Miz (w/Layla)

Kevin Thorn

Matt Striker

Stevie Richards

 

Which means that the following people would be gone:

 

Shawn Michaels

Rob Van Dam

CM Punk

Kane

Carlito

Snitsky

Charlie Haas

Tommy Dreamer

JTG

Shad

Daivari

Shannon Moore

Mike Knox

Armando Estrada

The Highlanders

The Major Brothers

Jim Duggan

Eugene

Maria

Ashley

Cherry

Maryse

Michelle McCool

Torrie Wilson

Brooke

Kelly Kelly

 

See, I'm even more ruthless than Redman!

Edited June 23, 2007 by Wolverine

[The Icon 152]

I would keep everybody, and hire back everybody ever fired. Except CM Punk he can go to hell.

[Guest FreeSpirit]

The person I would get rid off first is The Sandman, then I'd give pink slips to Mike Knox and Shannon Moore as well. I just dont see what WWE can do with any of these three anymore.

[Guest Redneck Messiah]

I'd trim the following off the rosters:

 

Snitsky

The Great Khali

Mike Knox

Charlie Haas

The Highlanders

Kevin Thorn

Matt Striker

Viscera

Val Venus

Santino Marella

Bob Holly

Dave Taylor

Funaki

Maria

Ashley

Maryse

Michelle McCool

Kelly Kelly

[Murph 93]

I would keep everybody, and hire back everybody ever fired. Except CM Punk he can go to hell.

 

Makes no sense at all, from a beneficial point of view to the company to release a superstar, in CM Punk, who is clearly a very taletned in-ring performer, and talented on the mic. He's clearly over, no shitty excuses like "it was in a smark city", he was over at Survivor Series, Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania, whether people like it or not.

[Guest dpddave]

Couldn't agree more murph....some people just dont like him for the sake of not liking him..kinda like the hate cena used to get.

 

And i know a lot of people are only buying the up coming PPV for the punk vs benoit match,myself included.

[Dead Crow 370]

A few smarks are only buying the PPV for Punk v Benoit, and they will be disappointed because it'll get little time, Benoit has become lazy lately, and Punk is the biggest overhype in modern wrestling history. It won't even be MOTN, guarentee.

 

As for the benefits of releasing him, he's no more over than Scotty 2 Hotty and his worm were, except Scotty, underneath the jobber gimmick, was actually a pretty solid worker. So if Scotty can get released, Punk will be very little of a loss.

[Guest dpddave]

A few smarks are only buying the PPV for Punk v Benoit, and they will be disappointed because it'll get little time, Benoit has become lazy lately, and Punk is the biggest overhype in modern wrestling history. It won't even be MOTN, guarentee.

 

As for the benefits of releasing him, he's no more over than Scotty 2 Hotty and his worm were, except Scotty, underneath the jobber gimmick, was actually a pretty solid worker. So if Scotty can get released, Punk will be very little of a loss.

 

Ye scotty was a solid worker...but punk is a hell of a lot better...take the time to watch the 5 stars matchs hes had.

 

Anyone that says punk cant work is just in blind denial...anytime hes being booked in a big match in WWE hes delivered.

 

He was the most over guy at Survivor Series,put in a hell of a showing in the Royal Rumble and did the same at wrestlemania.

 

Most of his matchs in ECW have been decent even though hes only got 5 or 6 minutes,anytime hes gone longer the matchs have been very good.

 

Hes hardly had a bad match since making his debut so im sure he would be a hell of a bigger lose than scotty to hotty and 90% of the other wretslers on ECW aswel...

Edited June 24, 2007 by dpddave

[Dead Crow 370]

Ye scotty was a solid worker...but punk is a hell of a lot better...take the time to watch the 5 stars matchs hes had.

The Meltzer-rated 5-star matches? No offense to Meltzer; his knowledge is second to none when it comes to wrestling, but his opinions are frankly a load of crap. I've seen Joe/Punk matches and they were nothing more than good, IMO. Just overrated and overhyped, which is the story of CM Punk's career. He's an average worker who got lucky that Raven pretty much handpicked him to make a star out of - and my God did Raven ever pull the biggest starmaking job in history by making Punk look like a megastar.

 

Anyone that says punk cant work is just in blind denial...anytime hes being booked in a big match in WWE hes delivered.

No one has said Punk can't work. He obviously can. He's just not the second coming of Christ that everyone says he is. He's not a main event level worker because he's nowhere near the look/talent of guys like Michaels, Taker, Cena, HHH etc. He's got a good look for the upper midcard but isn't on the level of MVP, Johnny Nitro, Finlay, Benoit etc. And really, the only place he really fits is in the midcard with guys like Noble, Guerrero, Helms etc, all of whom I think are better than Punk is. Helms especially. I've said for ages now and I still believe it - the only thing that Punk has over Helms is hype.

 

He was the most over guy at Survivor Series,put in a hell of a showing in the Royal Rumble and did the same at wrestlemania.

He was over at SS. The most over? Rubbish. I've got that event, and his pop does not exceed that of Taker or Batista. Sure, he got a great reaction because WWE has done a fantastic job of building him up as someone to care about (far better than he deserves), but Batista gets great reactions and he's a terrible worker. Rumble he did nothing of note. Wrestlemania he took an RKO and that's pretty much the only good thing he did. Easily the most inferior guy in that match. Edge and Jeff did their crazy spot, Finlay and Matt are incredible workers who held it together, Booker and Orton provided the star power, Kennedy was the star being bloomed, and Punk kinda just got stuck in to make up the numbers because he can bump.

 

Most of his matchs in ECW have been decent even though hes only got 5 or 6 minutes,anytime hes gone longer the matchs have been very good.

Have they? I've seen no Punk match in the WWE that has been better than "ok", to be honest. Against good talent like Stevie Richards, of course he's gonna look good because he can hold his end of the bargain. Against more inferior guys, Punk is exposed because he can't pick up the slack.

 

Hes hardly had a bad match since making his debut so im sure he would be a hell of a bigger lose than scotty to hotty and 90% of the other wretslers on ECW aswel...

He'd be a loss for the fact that he's the only star that ECW has created since the rebirth. In terms of ability, I'd rather lose Punk over any of the guys that I named because I consider all of them to offer more than Punk does. Ok I threw in two useless women too, but they look hot so *shrug*.