Evolution!

[Guest PowerPlay]

Probably lots of you remember Evolution as it was back in 2003-2004 with Randy Orton, Batista, Ric Flair and Triple H. I was watching an old episode of Raw from February 2004 and it's just incredible how Evolution was everywhere on the show and in my opinion that's what made the show better.

 

All four wrestlers had a role that fit well to them, Batista wasn't talking a lot but was a monster in the ring, Flair and HHH were the two main guys and Orton the up and coming guy, future star. This stable put over the wrestlers that stood against them. A wrestler that was able to beat Evolution had just incredible reactions from the crowd. HHH was just awesome as the cerebral assassin and mastermind of Evolution. This stable gave so much great moments, we just have to remember Randy Orton and The Rock's segment, Rock N' Sock Connection vs Evolution, Shelton Benjamin beating Triple H, it was just a great stable in my opinion. From my point of view, it's better than McMahon crap.

 

So my point is, maybe WWE needs another big stable of 4-5-6 people, in majority wrestlers, that would take over Raw or Smackdown, with maybe 2great established heel and some future stars like Kennedy or Burke. Than the faces would rise against them and team up, it'd give good tag team main events, great shows and something else than crying about a dead billionaire.

 

What do you think? Does WWE needs a big stable to interest their wrestling fans again?

[Murph 93]

Sounds too much like yet another NWO re-hash.

 

I mean, eventually the heels will get cheered, the babyfaces won't, then we're back into "shades of grey".

[Guest Dave7g]

Probably lots of you remember Evolution as it was back in 2003-2004 with Randy Orton, Batista, Ric Flair and Triple H. I was watching an old episode of Raw from February 2004 and it's just incredible how Evolution was everywhere on the show and in my opinion that's what made the show better.

 

The highlighted text explains this phenomenon.

[Guest PowerPlay]

Sounds too much like yet another NWO re-hash.

 

I mean, eventually the heels will get cheered, the babyfaces won't, then we're back into "shades of grey".

 

Eventually maybe, but I remember the Corporation with Shane McMahon HHH, Stephanie, Vince in 2000, wich was never cheered and was very entertainning. Maybe in a long-term stable some wrestlers would be cheered after sometime, but it would establish some new faces and give the opportunity to young wrestlers to shine.

[Guest FreeSpirit]

I would love to see another major faction in WWE again, would certainly make my interest increase again. I think a faction on SmackDown would work well at the moment, as it can make huge stars out of a lot of people currently rostered on the show?

[Paul 584]

Why the question mark? Which bit was the question?

 

Damn Im confused.

[Dead Crow 370]

Probably a typo?

[Paul 584]

Maybe, I wasnt sure. I was spending too long trying to work it out and it was hurting my head. I dont like to have to think while at work.

[Guest FreeSpirit]

Yeah sorry folks: It was a typo, as I meant to write a ! not ?

[Guest Kanenite]

I would love to see another major faction in WWE again, would certainly make my interest increase again. I think a faction on SmackDown would work well at the moment, as it can make huge stars out of a lot of people currently rostered on the show?

 

Totally agree. When Evolution were around they were probably the main thing of the time, I loved watching them and remember when they won all RAW Titles (obviously not Womens) at Armageddon 2003. The faction worked aswell, it made big stars out of both Batista and Randy Orton.

 

To me this only proves if all the cards are played correctly a stable can work really well and efficiently for everyone. I think they could do with a Stable to boost some young Wrestlers who have potential to be Main Eventers.

[Guest Anime Otaku]

I think that there will always be a place for big factions in Wrestling as long as the roster can support it like WWE's can just as long as they don't take up the entire show or get stupidly bloated like the Corporate ministry did.

[Guest dpddave]

Id like Edge to form a stable with MVP,a tag team(cade and murdoch would be perfect) and maybe masters as the muscle in the group....

[Guest Danny Styles]

Yeah sorry folks: It was a typo, as I meant to write a ! not ?

 

wow you missed the ? by quite a bit!

[Guest DarkMatchJobber]

I posted a thread a while back calling for the return of Evolution to WWE and it's good to see other fans would like that too!

 

This is my booking idea...

 

HBK walks out to the ring having promised a huge surprise to close the show,he struts into the ring and does his usual thing before grabbing a mic off of Lillian. The Showstopper then announces that for the last few months his career's been dead and the only thing that can revive it is a reunion with his best friend....cue the dx music and HHH walking down the aisle in dx colors with water bottle in hand.

 

Trips gets into the ring with a beaming smile on his face and embraces Shawn before being given the mic,he goes on to say that during the long months he spent in the gym rehabbing his quad he watched as his best friend was brutally assaulted time and again simply because Hunter was not there to watch his back and adds that now nobody will ever get the chance to end a career of man he considers the greatest in the business,the pair hug again before HHH says to Shawn," let's give the fans what they came here for "

 

The pair then stand in the middle of the ring and as DX music plays start crotch chopping when out of nowhere (coming through the crowd) the combination of Matt Morgan,Ric Flair and Randy Orton assault the showstopper from behind but ignore the game,JR is having a stress attack and shouting " For gawd's sakes hunter! help your friend!!! " but HHH simply stands there watching as a figure four leglock,F5 (remember Morgan did that to Big Show) and RKO are hit on HBK,The Game then rips off his DX shirt to reveal an Evolution one and hugs his new(ish) best friends to close the show.

[Guest Da Showstoppa]

I think the HBK V HHH rivalry cow has been milked dry already.

 

If you want to re establish Evolution I would go for HBK and HHH to announce that it's time to put Degeneration X to bed. They continue to team together but the DX image is "so 1997".

 

Then like Evolution, HBK and HHH take a young up and comer and a powerhouse under their wing and form a new stable - but they use the stable to actually accomplish more than Evolution (who were formed to protect HHH basically) and push the younger guys. Candidates for the stable would be: Johnny Nitro and possibly Lashley.

 

 

Mike

[Guest CoTT]

So my point is, maybe WWE needs another big stable of 4-5-6 people, in majority wrestlers, that would take over Raw or Smackdown, with maybe 2great established heel and some future stars like Kennedy or Burke. Than the faces would rise against them and team up, it'd give good tag team main events, great shows and something else than crying about a dead billionaire.

 

What do you think? Does WWE needs a big stable to interest their wrestling fans again?

 

I'd like to see a heel stable introduced but not the return of Evolution unless it was with the original four. Guys like Kennedy or Burke don't need to be part of a stable right now. Kennedy is on the verge of turning face and Burke is getting over very well on his own due to his natural charisma and very entertaining in-ring style. His match with CM Punk the other night is evidence of this.

 

For a new stable, they need to build it around a main top heel. The only person I can think of right now is Edge.

[Guest DarkMatchJobber]

I have a stable idea....GWMD,they are Gimmicks Which Must Die!

 

The members would be Eugene,Hacksaw Jim Duggan,Viscera,Boogeyman and of course Teddy Long (his gimmick being that he's a mid-aged guy in love with a girl outta his league).

[Dead Crow 370]

I'd kill to see a Black Horsemen stable. MVP, Burke, Cor Von and Benjamin (fire Haas, he's worthless) all in suits, proclaiming themselves to be the future playas and full scale P.I.M.P's suits me fine.

[Joey Asbo 45]

I'd kill to see a Black Horsemen stable. MVP, Burke, Cor Von and Benjamin (fire Haas, he's worthless) all in suits, proclaiming themselves to be the future playas and full scale P.I.M.P's suits me fine.

 

I want to see a new Nation formed with Cor Von, Burke, and maybe call up Rodimer and Charles Evans (provided they're ready - if not Benjamin) and they could have Ron Simmons as the manager. (he could say hes sick of being a comedy character etc.)

They could even have him come out and observe matches when he's putting the team together and then recruiting the members several angles over a few weeks:- in beat down angles, with us/against us angles. would make for good TV over a few weeks. then when the groups together let them go with it, see where it goes.

 

Also about the horsemen group, they could have Batista and Flair teaming together regularly and getting beat down by, for arguments sake ^ the Nation ^, (it would get them over). And have them bring a couple of guys in and show them the way and give them the rub. Cody Runnells could be a good addition, and who better to bring him in than Flair, and someone like Masters, would have shock value, be a big turn, (something that rarely happens nowadays) and would teach Masters to work better.

[Dead Crow 370]

I wouldn't want the group to be a "Nation" though. The only racial element I want from it is that all the members are black. The Nation was fundamentally based entirely on race and the supposed prejudice the WWF harboured towards them. In this case, it would simply be four black dudes with a lot of money, super-style, charisma and talent.

[Joey Asbo 45]

The thing is iv listed all black guys, but it could just be anyone who feels they arent getting a fair shake, Chavo could join, even Carlito, anoter name i missed - Mark Henry could fit well.

[Guest The Franchise]

Imitation is indeed the biggest form of flattery.

 

Probably lots of you remember Evolution as it was back in 2003-2004 with Randy Orton, Batista, Ric Flair and Triple H. I was watching an old episode of Raw from February 2004 and it's just incredible how Evolution was everywhere on the show and in my opinion that's what made the show better.

 

All four wrestlers had a role that fit well to them, Batista wasn't talking a lot but was a monster in the ring, Flair and HHH were the two main guys and Orton the up and coming guy, future star. This stable put over the wrestlers that stood against them. A wrestler that was able to beat Evolution had just incredible reactions from the crowd. HHH was just awesome as the cerebral assassin and mastermind of Evolution. This stable gave so much great moments, we just have to remember Randy Orton and The Rock's segment, Rock N' Sock Connection vs Evolution, Shelton Benjamin beating Triple H, it was just a great stable in my opinion. From my point of view, it's better than McMahon crap.

 

So my point is, maybe WWE needs another big stable of 4-5-6 people, in majority wrestlers, that would take over Raw or Smackdown, with maybe 2great established heel and some future stars like Kennedy or Burke. Than the faces would rise against them and team up, it'd give good tag team main events, great shows and something else than crying about a dead billionaire.

 

What do you think? Does WWE needs a big stable to interest their wrestling fans again?

 

Evoultion was nothing more than an irritating generic version of The Four Horsemen.Big stables are nothing new to the WWE.DX, The Nation Of Domination,Helmsley-McMahon regime,Cooperate Ministry, The Ministry of Darkness,The NWO,Team Angle,The Spirit Squad;etc. At this point not even a strong stable with prime-time players would make either show look more attractive.

 

Raw has gotten the better pick of the lottery, Smackdown looks even more weaker than ever before,and ECW IMO should be laid to rest like the XFL was. With alot of the prime-time players injured not to mention the untimely passing of the late Chris Benoit the WWE is truly at its weakest point right now.(Especially ECW)

 

The WWE isnt competitive enough to have a strong stable laying the smackdown on heels and faces like the original Horsemen did. Heels always fight faces and vice versa.

 

When they actually do mix the two there is always an angle to make one side appear to be going the way of a heel or vice versa. At this point they need to push those thats busted their asses to get where they are not the ones that looks the part but lacks in every other catagory. Another mega-stable just doesnt seem to be the answer IMO.:doh32: