Peta2

[Guest The Man Beast]

http://www.Peta2.org

Check this site out, and if your not a veggie check out some of the vids and see if you change your mind ;), So are their any Vegetations on TWO? Ive been on for about 4 years now one of the best decisions of my life :xyx

[Guest Colin]

I guess it's only fair to counter with an alternative.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYKdsIHE3is

[Guest Twig]

Yeah it's really only 3% of farms that treat chickens and cows like that, and yet they do produce about 40% of my country's overall food. What I want to know is how PETA obtained that much film of "farmers" senselessly beating animals. It's certainly not out of possibility that PETA staged these attacks to sway people to "make the right decision." Find farmers markets, eat diverse species of vegetables, and just don't get meat froma supermarket. The bets butchers are kosher, or halal. where their religion dictates proper raising and killing of the animals.

[Guest Walshy]

Ah good old P.E.T.A, nothing like a group that gives money to known criminals to tell people what is morally right.

[Nimf 324]

http://www.Peta2.org

Check this site out, and if your not a veggie check out some of the vids and see if you change your mind ;), So are their any Vegetations on TWO? Ive been on for about 4 years now one of the best decisions of my life :xyx

Or even vegetarians??

 

I'd never give up meat, our bodies are designed to eat meat as proof by the fact that most vegetarians need vitamins to keep the right amount of goodness in their bodies. Our "chewing" teeth at he back sure aren't meant for chewing veg! Ok, so the way they are often killed can be horrifically cruel. The sad thing being that it won't stop just because a handful of people become veggies, as much as that would make me happy.

 

Plus, if people really wanted to make others be aware of the things these poor animals go through, and try to stop it (by becoming veggie or not) then perhaps they should make sure that all free range chickens, etc aren't twice the price of the others?

[Burakiosaurus 129]

in response, hree is some Friday humour

 

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[Guest A.C.]

In that vein...

 

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5620/bigpot6gt1.jpg

[DC 536]

http://www.Peta2.org

Check this site out, and if your not a veggie check out some of the vids and see if you change your mind ;), So are their any Vegetations on TWO? Ive been on for about 4 years now one of the best decisions of my life :xyx

Please don't be one of those "I'm a vegetarian, so I'm better than you" type people. DS was telling me about a guy on another forum who basically said that meat-eaters had no morals.

 

It always makes me laugh when a vegetarian says that, (for example) because of me that, cow's life ends undignified. If it wasn't for me and my fellow meat-eaters that cow would never have had a life, because the farmer would have had little reason to have reared it in the first place.

 

If God didn't want us to eat meat, why did he make it so tasty? Seriously though, it is a minority that treat animals like that, and I'm not saying that it's a nice life (being reared, then having a bolt through your head, if you're lucky enough to only need one), but we've been eating meat since we've known how to hunt, and I don't see why I should stop now.

 

Question for Man Beast.

 

Does this animal-welfare awareness of yours only stretch to food, or does it also stretch to other parts of your life? No leather shoes, not eating fish or eggs. What about milk? As I'm sure there are farms where the milk extraction isn't especially nice.

 

 

I guess it's only fair to counter with an alternative.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYKdsIHE3is

Is it just me, or does Penn Jillette sound exactly like Paul Heyman doing a promo? Edited June 15, 2007 by DC

[Red05 343]

I'm not a vegetarian, and I don't plan on being one. Well it's lunch time, I should go whip up a bacon butty.

[Guest Al Stevens]

I think i am having a very juicy stake later.

 

I couldnt live with out meat it's great!

[Guest The Man Beast]

Please don't be one of those "I'm a vegetarian, so I'm better than you" type people. DS was telling me about a guy on another forum who basically said that meat-eaters had no morals.

 

It always makes me laugh when a vegetarian says that, (for example) because of me that, cow's life ends undignified. If it wasn't for me and my fellow meat-eaters that cow would never have had a life, because the farmer would have had little reason to have reared it in the first place.

 

If God didn't want us to eat meat, why did he make it so tasty? Seriously though, it is a minority that treat animals like that, and I'm not saying that it's a nice life (being reared, then having a bolt through your head, if you're lucky enough to only need one), but we've been eating meat since we've known how to hunt, and I don't see why I should stop now.

 

Question for Man Beast.

 

Does this animal-welfare awareness of yours only stretch to food, or does it also stretch to other parts of your life? No leather shoes, not eating fish or eggs. What about milk? As I'm sure there are farms where the milk extraction isn't especially nice.

 

 

Is it just me, or does Penn Jillette sound exactly like Paul Heyman doing a promo?

 

Well I dont eat fish, But drink Milk and eat eggs, No leather or any furs or anything like that.

[Guest MastersGonads]

I think i am having a very juicy stake later.

 

Well that counts you out from being Dracula...

 

Well I dont eat fish, But drink Milk and eat eggs, No leather or any furs or anything like that.

 

Free Range I hope...

[Guest Nicole]

I hate the thought of being a vegetarian. To be fair, right now I could eat a nice juicy steak, medium rare, perhaps more on the rare side with a lil blood coming out. Bloody lovely.

 

I do buy freerange eggs because I don't like the thought of hens being squished, but I don't really give it a thought beyond that.

[Paul 584]

The bets butchers are kosher, or halal. where their religion dictates proper raising and killing of the animals.

 

!

 

Dhabiha halal is against the stunning of the animal before its throat is slit and it is hung upside down to die. Kosher meat is also banned in a number of countries for the same reason.

[Guest ahsatan]

I was a vegan once. No dairy, eggs, meat, no animal produce at all. I don't think it was as hard as you'd imagine, but I don't think it gave me much in the way of nutrition, either!

I now eat meat again. I buy free range as much as I can. I didn't click the link, I've seen enough of these animal cruelty things and seeing another won't open my eyes any more than they are already.

[Guest The Man Beast]

Well that counts you out from being Dracula...

 

 

 

Free Range I hope...

 

Homegrown from my nans farm :good222:

[Guest Nicole]

My mate was a vegetarian for about 4 years...she saw a steak on the menu sometime around Christmas, ordered it, ate it and became a meat eater again, claiming that she didn't know how she coped without meat.

[Guest Nemesis Enforcer]

I live on chicken its what I eat daily and that is not going to change anytime soon and no video of animal's being treated bad will change that

 

To be honest I couldn't care how bad the cow, chicken, pig etc is treated before it dies, just as long as it tastes great on my plate, its whole purpouse in life is to become food and once its dead it sure isn't going to remember how bad its life way :xyx

Edited June 15, 2007 by Nemesis Enforcer

[DC 536]

My mate was a vegetarian for about 4 years...she saw a steak on the menu sometime around Christmas, ordered it, ate it and became a meat eater again, claiming that she didn't know how she coped without meat.

I'm in complete agreement here. I'd struggle to go through life not eating meat.

[Nimf 324]

I'm in complete agreement here. I'd struggle to go through life not eating meat.

That might have something to do with the fact that, for you, meat and 2 veg consists of steak and 2 forms of potato...:lol

 

My Auntie Jill is a vegetarian and although she doesn't like the way the animals are treated, she became one because she didn't like the taste of meat. She will still happily prepare meat for my Uncle. And she eats really well and supplements her non meat diet with many many pulses, etc, to be sure she gets all the goodness she needs. I think that's where a lot of veggies go wrong-they assume that becoming a vegetarian just means stopping eating meat-you need to supplement your diet be it with other forms of food or vitamins.

[Paul 584]

That might have something to do with the fact that, for you, meat and 2 veg consists of steak and 2 forms of potato...:lol

 

For me its sausage, chips and beans. :D

[Nimf 324]

For me its sausage, chips and beans. :D

Beans? You rebel, you...

[Guest Twig]

I hope you guys know that "free range" doesn't mean that the animal lived it's life outside or anything. All it means is that they've had acess to the outside (which may just be a concrete pit) for 5 minutes a day. Especially with chickens, who when held together 5 in a cage have been de beaked and often go insane, they don't comprehend the possibility of leaving their cage.

What you want to look for is "pasture raised" which means that the cows lived outside and grazed on grass for food.

Grass fed is alright too, it's better for a cows digestive system which is designed to eat grass and not hte usual grain which can cause wounds in the cows digestive tract.

I'm not some leftist PETA member either guys, I'm a culnarian and the adminisration thinks we should know these things if we're going to be in the industry. :xyx

 

And the benefits of halal and kosher would be a lack of antibiotics and hormones, which are the biggest problems within milk. Large milk producers keep their animals in very close quarters, and so disease is easily spread through all of them, so they're kept on a constant diet of antibiotics. When we consistently drink milk with low levels of antibiotics we only kill very weak bacteria in our bodys, and pretty much breed super germs within our selves. The smaller produceers are able to remove the sick cow before they infect everyone else and treat them seperately without using their milk.

And rBGH is a scary thing.recombinant Bovine Growth Hormones double a cows weekly milk output, but kinda deforms the cow.It's legal in three countrys, so most of you don't have to worry about it, but those of us in South Africa, Mexico, and the US do. In America, the large agribussiness producers pay farmers $1/cow being given rBGH.

 

And with all this crap going on, Chicago has still seen fit to ban fois gras from sale in restaurants :roll All because someone showed one of them a PETA video on the matter.

[Paul 584]

And the benefits of halal and kosher would be a lack of antibiotics and hormones, which are the biggest problems within milk.

 

Not a large benefit for the animals who die slowly and painfully. :lol

[Guest ahsatan]

Foie gras you mean? Where the act of forcefeeding a duck or goose through a tube in order to make it really fat? Horrible!