Chemical Castration for Sex Offenders

[Paul 584]

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Surely the thing about sex crimes is it normally is power driven rather than sexually driven, so would lowering the sex drive work? baybe on those who actually are attracted to kids, but not those who do it for the power trip.

[Guest Miss T]

Just saw this, the idea of castration makes me feel sick! I dont know whether they do it for a power trip or because they are horny but either way it sounds like a pretty good punishment, will it actually happen though?! human rights and all that :lol

[Guest Anime Otaku]

I saw this on The Wright Stuff and think its a great idea, they reckon the reoffending rate with this drops down as far as 5%. I definitely think this is the best option we have, I'd go as far as to say it should be mandatory.

To answer MissT chemical castration is done by injecting a large dose of anti-depressants initially then regularly topping up on a monthly basis which could be done when the person reports to their parole officer. Also the government proposal dodges the HR concerns by making treatment voluntary, probably in return for a reduced sentence.

Edited June 13, 2007 by Anime Otaku

[Guest Jung]

What happens if they take Viagra?

 

I mean if its a mental condition, surely the lack of libido won't matter in the slightest if they take some viagra and go for it?

[Guest Anime Otaku]

I don't think Viagra is a mood enhancer (I could be wrong) plus labido suppressing medication is just one option, I'm sure there would be something available to help those with other psycological issues, counciling would probably be used to.

[DC 536]

What's wrong with physical/surgical castration?

[Guest A.C.]

What's wrong with physical/surgical castration?

 

I suppose doing it the chemical way means it's reversible - just in case the courts get things wrong.

 

(CF: Hanging/Life [meaning LIFE!] sentences for murder etc.)

[Guest Anime Otaku]

It's also barbaric, and yes I have previously said I'd support physical castration but having learnt about this and how effective it is I have changed my POV.

[Guest frednut]

Well i still say that sex offenders should be locked up for the rest of their life. The one's who do it to kids are the worst and should never be let out. There will always be a way to get around this drug and someone will find a way. The only safe method in keeping the public safe is to put them in Prison.

 

edit: actually i've changed my mind, if it is 100% certain that they did commit the crime or pleaded guilty then kill them. Scum of the earth and prison or castration is too good for them.

Edited June 13, 2007 by frednut

[Guest Nicole]

Well i still say that sex offenders should be locked up for the rest of their life. The one's who do it to kids are the worst and should never be let out. There will always be a way to get around this drug and someone will find a way. The only safe method in keeping the public safe is to put them in Prison.

 

edit: actually i've changed my mind, if it is 100% certain that they did commit the crime or pleaded guilty then kill them. Scum of the earth and prison or castration is too good for them.

 

Nah they'll go through some session of rehab instead, be let out and reoffend again :) I like the idea of chemically castrating them, even though I read that some paedophile's mindsets are such that even if they were physically castrated, they'd find other ways of abusing a child which makes me feel a bit ill actually.

[Guest frednut]

Nah they'll go through some session of rehab instead, be let out and reoffend again :) I like the idea of chemically castrating them, even though I read that some paedophile's mindsets are such that even if they were physically castrated, they'd find other ways of abusing a child which makes me feel a bit ill actually.

 

Thats why scum like paedophiles should be killed. Stuff human rights and all that bollocks, these are scum that abuse the priviledge to live. I'm convinced that once they start thinking like that then there is no way in hell that you can convince them not to.

 

More importantly though, as i've just read somewhere else, what do they plan on doing to female sex offenders? Both sides of the bat do it.

[Guest A.C.]

I'm convinced that once they start thinking like that then there is no way in hell that you can convince them not to.

 

I'm sure we all impatiently await the publication of the in-depth study you've conducted in order to come to that reasoned conclusion.

[Guest Nemesis Enforcer]

I fully support castration for paedophiles and i'm not talking about chemical either, if you are depraved enough to sexually be attracted to and sexually abuse a small child then imo you forfit your 'human rights'

 

Physical castration may be 'barbaric' but so is sexually abusing a child and if people knew the punishment and its effects then it would sure give them something to think about when they get their 'urges'

[Guest Anime Otaku]

Physical castration may be 'barbaric' but so is sexually abusing a child and if people knew the punishment and its effects then it would sure give them something to think about when they get their 'urges'

 

It wouldn't be a deterrant though, Texas has the highest death row population in the USA, guess which state has the highest murder rate, it's Texas, Though I don't know if thats just raw numbers or if its a per capita statistic i.e. there is x murders or y inmates per z amount of people in Texas.

Plus for some can't easily help being attracted to children even if they know it's wrong any more than DC can help finding Redheads especially attractive or I can stop myself from finding SE Asian women attractive so trying to help people overcome their demons, remember many offenders were originally victims of the same crime in their formative years, and giving them treatment is the best option, like I said chemical castration drops reoffending to around 5% which means that with treatment 95% will not be any further risk to anyone. I'm not saying they should be allowed to become childminders or the like but they should be allowed out under strict controls.

[Guest Nemesis Enforcer]

I don't know about chemical castration dropping the rate but actual physical castration drops it to 5% (not saying you are wrong that chemical castration doesn't does the same as I haven't seen the figures for that)

 

There is a big difference from being attracted to something and actually going through with phyisically doing something, i'm sure some peadophiles are just attracted but i'm talking the ones who actually abuse, who carry out the acts should be castrated

 

After reading about how its done its not actually that barbaric either, a small incision is made in the scrotum and the testicles removed through it, then prostetic testicles are placed in the scrotum, it can be done in an outpatient appointment and the result is your sexual urges vanish (only a 5% reoffend rate) and so does any agressive tendances (only a 2.2% aggreassive re-offend rate)

[Guest Miss T]

I fully support castration for paedophiles and i'm not talking about chemical either, if you are depraved enough to sexually be attracted to and sexually abuse a small child then imo you forfit your 'human rights'

 

Physical castration may be 'barbaric' but so is sexually abusing a child and if people knew the punishment and its effects then it would sure give them something to think about when they get their 'urges'

 

Surely they cant help the fact that they are sexually attracted to children, its the acting upon that attraction that matters.

[Guest Nemesis Enforcer]

Surely they cant help the fact that they are sexually attracted to children, its the acting upon that attraction that matters.

Yes which is what I said to Anime_Otaku and why I said "Sexually attracted to and sexually abuse a small child" meaning you are attracted to AND abuse them

[Guest frednut]

I'm sure we all impatiently await the publication of the in-depth study you've conducted in order to come to that reasoned conclusion.

 

I'm not going to tell you how I fully came to that conclusion as it's a personal matter but what i will tell you is that someone in my family, a distant relative, was involved in the matter and also, on a different case, 3 of my friends have also been involved with a sex offender and they were 15 at the time. Then the same person who they described did it again but was caught the second time.

 

If you go through life questioning people's thoughts and opinions in the same cocky manner then i feel sorry for you as you must really have no friends at all and enjoy being a muppet, On a subject like this it should be common sense for you to realise why someone makes a judgement about sex offenders.

[Guest Popsi]

I'll be honest, this is something we've talked a lot about in work today. Basically my thoughts on the matter are this: It would only ever be voluntary suggesting that the only people who would do it are those who actually want to change and not reoffend (kinda goes against those people who say they never change). Also and i'll blunt here, there are other ways to penetrate a child or abuse a child other than through penile penetration.

[Guest Anime Otaku]

Usually the reason most people come to have such opinions on this matter involves the gutter press whipping up mass hysteria rather than personal experience.

[Guest Popsi]

Surely they cant help the fact that they are sexually attracted to children, its the acting upon that attraction that matters.

 

And yes you are right Misty, a true paedophile is someone who is only sexually attracted to children, and has a preference for them. As opposed to someone who abuses children through a lack of any other sexual contact. Paedophiles fundamentally will never change (its like asking a heterosexual not to fancy the opposite sex) but they can be worked with to ensure they don't act on those feelings. Difficult as that may be.

[Guest frednut]

Usually the reason most people come to have such opinions on this matter involves the gutter press whipping up mass hysteria rather than personal experience.

 

it's more common than you think and is deeply disturbing when you come across people who have been involved in one way or another. As i said above I know 4 people who have been involved in one way or another. What it does to them is shocking and that's why people form such strong opinions on matters like this.

 

murder can be an accident in some cases, but how can you call a sexual offence an accident? you can't. There's no excuse for it at all.

[Guest A.C.]

I'm not going to tell you how I fully came to that conclusion as it's a personal matter but what i will tell you is that someone in my family, a distant relative, was involved in the matter and also, on a different case, 3 of my friends have also been involved with a sex offender and they were 15 at the time. Then the same person who they described did it again but was caught the second time.

 

If you go through life questioning people's thoughts and opinions in the same cocky manner then i feel sorry for you as you must really have no friends at all and enjoy being a muppet, On a subject like this it should be common sense for you to realise why someone makes a judgement about sex offenders.

 

NOT a knock on your age but maybe when you're a little older the world won't seem such a black and white place. A couple of instances (or a couple of offenders and several instances - your post is understandably coy on the matter) do not make a case for killing all who have commited similar disgusting acts.

 

As for muppets - I used to look a bit like Animal I s'pose but male pattern baldness plays havoc with long hair...

 

To be clear - I wasn't calling you stupid or anything, as you seemed to infer, I was commenting upon the absoluteness of your assertion that change is impossible.

 

Can I call you Fozzie Bear from now on? :greets4:

[Joey Asbo 45]

More importantly though, as i've just read somewhere else, what do they plan on doing to female sex offenders? Both sides of the bat do it.

 

its a bit unrelated but and its a bit of a side track from this comment, just though of an intresting fact when females were brought into the conversation -

 

Correct me if im wrong but i believe that females cannot be charged with rape by law, due to the fact that a man has to be sexually aroused in order for it to take place.

 

My flatmate at Uni does Law and told me this, i was totally shocked!

[Guest frednut]

NOT a knock on your age but maybe when you're a little older the world won't seem such a black and white place. A couple of instances (or a couple of offenders and several instances - your post is understandably coy on the matter) do not make a case for killing all who have commited similar disgusting acts.

 

As for muppets - I used to look a bit like Animal I s'pose but male pattern baldness plays havoc with long hair...

 

To be clear - I wasn't calling you stupid or anything, as you seemed to infer, I was commenting upon the absoluteness of your assertion that change is impossible.

 

Can I call you Fozzie Bear from now on? :greets4:

 

In the words of Vinnie Jones, "Call me Susan if it makes you happy". Call me whatever you want as long as it's not offensive, :xyx

 

Sorry for calling you a muppet, it's just a personal matter and it winds me up thinking about it, as you can understand.

 

I still feel though that there is no excuse for a sexual offence as there is no way possible that it can be an accident. Murder can be excused in cases like self defence, how can you call forcefully sticking your knob into a young child's nether region an accident? You can't, you never can. People who commit the act of a sexual offence deserve to rot and suffer for the rest of their life, or even better killed.

 

I'm all for human rights but sex offenders don't deserve them at all and if it's 100% certain that they did commit the crime then kill them. I'm pretty certain i'll stand by this view in 20 years time, and for the rest of my life.

 

so to retort, yes you can call me fozzie bear :xyx