Give a wrestler a push

[Guest Chriscare]

Ok, this is pretty simple. Pick a wrestler for the WWE roster, pick a brand to stick them on, give them a gimmick and explain how and why they'd get over and why you choose them.

 

You're not allowed to use the same wrestler as someone else or gimmick as someone else. (gives the thread more variation)

 

Here's mine..

 

Choice and reason: Chris Masters because he's young and he's got the look for the gimmick i wanted to use.

 

Brand and reason: Smackdown, he's never been anywhere other than Raw, it'd be a nice change for him

 

Allignment and gimmick: Face, and i'd give him Shamrocks old 'snapped' gimmick.

 

Why i think it'd work: Basically he doesn't really need to do much talking, he pretty much just wants to kick some ass. I'd give him a nice powerful impact finisher and make him practice it til he perfects it, something like the Jackhammer, a powerbomb, or some kind of spinebuster variation, quicker the better really , i'd scrap the master lock, maybe give him something with more intensity, an ankle lock, tazzmission or gullotine choke. He'd always be loosing matches *** he snapped and start decking referee's left right and centre, he'd have an amazing royal rumble performance, eliminting no one, just snapping on them all. And he'd always mock his old self in promo's, mentioning how he's never gonna win the award for best in ring performer, but as long as he gets to hurt somebody, he's happy.

 

basically i think this would make him the number 1 baby face in a maximum of 10 minutes, it's that damn good.

 

your go!

Edited June 7, 2007 by Chriscare

[Guest Drake]

Choice and reason: Johnny Nitro (Yeah, big surprise there. ^_^) Well, Nitro is young and has a tremendous look. Sure, he isn't as big as the typical wrestler Vince goes for (6'5" 250lbs) but he really doesn't look like a Spike Dudley. Since his debut in the WWE he had a really good run in the tag team division with Mercury and when he went solo, he had a tremendous (IMO) feud with Jeff Hardy for the I-C title.

 

Brand and reason: Smackdown because RAW seems to be more for the more 'established' Superstars. Plus IMO, it would give him a fresh start with his single career and he'll seem like a fresh face on the brand.

 

Allignment and gimmick: Heel. I wouldn't change his current gimmick that much but I would make him more of a dastardly heel. I would also try to give him a manager because he isn't so great on the mic. He can learn from his manager and slowly start to get better in that aspect. Hell, I would give him Paul Heyman as his manager.

 

Why i think it'd work: Basically I would just make Nitro the modernized version of a cocky/heel HBK circa' 97'. I would give him a quick, impactful finisher that can be applied out of nowhere. His dancing leg drop must go. He can go on to preach about how his the New Blood of wrestling and how un-talentless lumps like (Kayfabe) Mr.Kennedy get all the praise around there. Ohh, he can also trash Matt Hardy and get personal with him, telling him how sad he is because his girlfriend got *****d by one of his best friend etc.... I would just have Nitro, alongside Heyman, pinch that nerve that would make people go "Ohhhh". And there you have it. Two great feuds, IMO of course.

[Guest Danny Styles]

Shelton Benjamin. He's got the look and more than enough charisma to get by and is fantastic in the ring.

 

WWE hurt him with the mother gimmick and then decided to make him heel again, the reason they gave you to boo him, he wore a shirt and shades

 

personally i think with Shelton give him a MVPesque gimmick, say people have been recruiting him from the NCAA so he's decided to hire an agent who can also act as a good mouthpiece, he'd be a heel and basically say he's too good for the amatuers and he's here to prove he's too good for the pros

 

stick him on Smackdown and when the gimmick catches on move him over to Raw

 

Why do i think it would work: because with a moutpiece who gets under the fans skin he would get the heel heat he needs, he's god the look and skills, add the heat and he's the totla package

[Joey Asbo 45]

I agree with Drake, i like Nitro's work, with a little more TV time and a few tweaks - i thought he had more momentum when he was accompanied to the ring by Melina - he could be a top heel.

 

But if i had to choose someone different i would say bring back Burchill to the main roster and push the guy to the stars, i think hes got it in him. I think he could be a monster heel on ECW to start with, almost in a hooligan role attacking top faces in the back, having two underneath guys in the ring having a match and have him come and squash the heck outta them. He could either be a loner, or another Heyman protege, who is hell bent on destroying ECW from within.

[Guest Ravenmark]

William Regal.

 

Can have great matches and cut great promos.

 

I think they could even play on the whole 'boring' (personally I don't think he is) nature of his wrestling and could make him into a HUGE Main Event heel.

 

A little off-topic, but if they pushed Stevie Richards in a similar vain of when he was in Right to Censor, he too could be a Main Eventer. Indeed Richards could have been when he was in RTC all those years ago.

[Guest DarkMatchJobber]

Val Venis

 

Reason - He's never doing anything

 

Show - ECW - They need talent badly

 

Gimmick - The ultimate paparazzi privacy invader - he wears glasses and basically pesters every superstar he finds into giving him an exclusive scoop but when their guard is down he makes his own headlines by beating the crap out of them and when he's done he straightens his 80's blazer (red and grey stripes for the record) and says " AND THAT'S AN EXCLUSIVE !!!"

 

WWE could use him to mock internet journalists and all the other evil doers who criticise the McMahon empire and even change his move names round (Russian Leg Sweep becomes The Back Page Headline and Money Shot becomes Front Cover Splash-geddit?)

 

He'd have to be called Mr. Morley too.

[Joey Asbo 45]

He could use a "Press" slam - bring in Alex Shelley as his sidekick!

[DC 536]

Choice and reason: Christ Master because he's young and he's got the look for the gimmick i wanted to use.

Christ Master? Religious gimmicks rarely work.

[Guest Redneck Messiah]

I'll have to agree with Shelton Benjamin. Here's what WWE could have done:

 

When Booker T went down a month or so ago they should have had Sharmell join forces with Shelton. Sharmell could have acted as his mouthpiece and talked him up as the best young wrestler and she was going to make him a star. I would have Shelton have an even more cocky edge to him. I'd have them as mega heels and give Shelton some quality clean wins. I would then have him capture the IC title belt in a long grueling match with the current champion. Sharmell and Shelton could give some great interviews saying that they knew all along their partnership would equal money and fame.

 

I would then have Booker return about a month before he's cleared to wrestle and show up to RAW for support of his wife. I'd have Sharmell act more interested in business than her husband who "is broken down at the time and can't wrestle". I'd have Booker pertrayed as a guy who is being treated like crap by his wife. I'd have Shelton tell Booker that he's a has been and Shelton is the new big thing in the business. I'd have Booker return every week to give support to his wife even though she's more interested in being with Shelton who is the champion.

 

After about 4-6 weeks of segments with the three I would set up an angle where Booker is training to return and challenges Shelton to a title match at a big PPV. I would then have Booker and Sharmell turn on Shelton, take his title, beat the living snot out of him, and injure him. Booker would proclaim that he's back and they used Shelton all along. I would have Shelton take about three weeks off and then return without any talk of it to attack Booker on a show. They could then build him up as a major face getting revenge against Booker and Sharmell. I would have given the entire angle a seven month run with everything invloved. I think it's silly to not utilize Sharmell as she's a good heel manager and this could be a nice angle to finally get Shelton over with the fans.

Edited June 7, 2007 by Redneck Messiah

[Joey Asbo 45]

Bring in The Sinister Minister, Fallen Angel and Reverend D'von, put them with Deacon Batista and Christ Master. Its almost Horseman-esque, they could dominate wrestling

[Naitch 207]

People still think Shelton Benjamin could be a star? The guy is in basically the position on the card his talent warrants. He's a good athlete and he...he...yeah I got nothing. Billy Gunn was a good athlete and he was also a better talker and was more charismatic than Benjamin. Didn't stop him from sucking 10 different kinds of animal penis. Jim Cornette did seem to think though that Benjamin was blessed with a lot of natural charisma but if that doesn't translate on camera then it doesn't mean a thing. Other than him being able to jump high and do lots of springboards (half of which he screws up anyway) and kewl movz, I still can't see what he has going for him. Just strikes me as a backstage PS2 playing, happy-to-be-a-midcarder-for-life kinda guy. Some people are going to be stars (MVP, Mr. Kennedy) and some people are going to spend their careers arsing about in the midcard while a few easily fooled people on the internet complain about the glass ceiling and whatnot. Are there still people who think Charlie Haas is any good too? Because...Goddamn.

[Guest Reno]

Choice and reason: Brian Kendrick. I haven't seen any of his work outside of the E, but what I've seen in the WWE he has good athletism, a good babyface look and I personally think he would have a good run with the US/Intercontinental title.

 

Brand and reason: Raw, as it'd be a huge change, but the safest bet would be Smackdown.

 

Allignment and gimmick: Face, he's have either a prettyboy gimmick or an old-school Babyface gimmick, both could most likely be worked into each other. Give him a better finisher (even though I do like Sliced Bread 2) and gethim to work with a few submission, make him a mix between Matt and Jeff Hardy.

 

Why i think it'd work: He has a perfect look for an upper mid-carder, and if he is good work on the microphone that would be a plus. He had a great run with the Tag Team titles, but I personally think he'd work well as a singles if given the chance. Get him over with the crowd and he could possibly more popular then Mysterio Jnr (if I get my way :P).

[Guest Chriscare]

Christ Master? Religious gimmicks rarely work.

 

Gimme a break, it was nearly 4am

[Guest Chriscare]

People still think Shelton Benjamin could be a star? The guy is in basically the position on the card his talent warrants. He's a good athlete and he...he...yeah I got nothing. Billy Gunn was a good athlete and he was also a better talker and was more charismatic than Benjamin. Didn't stop him from sucking 10 different kinds of animal penis. Jim Cornette did seem to think though that Benjamin was blessed with a lot of natural charisma but if that doesn't translate on camera then it doesn't mean a thing. Other than him being able to jump high and do lots of springboards (half of which he screws up anyway) and kewl movz, I still can't see what he has going for him. Just strikes me as a backstage PS2 playing, happy-to-be-a-midcarder-for-life kinda guy. Some people are going to be stars (MVP, Mr. Kennedy) and some people are going to spend their careers arsing about in the midcard while a few easily fooled people on the internet complain about the glass ceiling and whatnot. Are there still people who think Charlie Haas is any good too? Because...Goddamn.

 

I think Benjamin could be a star, he's definatly got the in ring ability, and his skits with his 'momma' showed he does have some charisma at least, he just needs to find his character, and put in some effort. I tink if they put benjamin with an experience talker he'd learn something, i don't see what good putting him and haas together is at all

 

But if i had to choose someone different i would say bring back Burchill to the main roster and push the guy to the stars, i think hes got it in him. I think he could be a monster heel on ECW to start with, almost in a hooligan role attacking top faces in the back, having two underneath guys in the ring having a match and have him come and squash the heck outta them. He could either be a loner, or another Heyman protege, who is hell bent on destroying ECW from within.

 

Might work in TNA, but i wouldn't have though Burchill is big enough to pull off a monster heel gimmick in WWE

 

 

EDIT: sorry forgot i'd just posted

Edited June 7, 2007 by Chriscare

[Guest Redneck Messiah]

People still think Shelton Benjamin could be a star? The guy is in basically the position on the card his talent warrants. He's a good athlete and he...he...yeah I got nothing. Billy Gunn was a good athlete and he was also a better talker and was more charismatic than Benjamin. Didn't stop him from sucking 10 different kinds of animal penis. Jim Cornette did seem to think though that Benjamin was blessed with a lot of natural charisma but if that doesn't translate on camera then it doesn't mean a thing. Other than him being able to jump high and do lots of springboards (half of which he screws up anyway) and kewl movz, I still can't see what he has going for him. Just strikes me as a backstage PS2 playing, happy-to-be-a-midcarder-for-life kinda guy. Some people are going to be stars (MVP, Mr. Kennedy) and some people are going to spend their careers arsing about in the midcard while a few easily fooled people on the internet complain about the glass ceiling and whatnot. Are there still people who think Charlie Haas is any good too? Because...Goddamn.

 

Benjamin has a decent look and good in ring skills. He does lack mic skills but he's not the worst by any means. I don't know I just think the guy is talented and hasn't had a "decent" gimmick outside of his tag team with Haas. Benjamin's still young and learning his craft. I just don't think they've found a gimmick that will stick and work with him. I can't even think of one long term program he's had with another wrestler recently that was given time to develop. I'm not saying he could be a huge star but I don't think he's destined to be in the lower mid card either. I'd rather see him pushed instead of guys like Masters, Marella, Snitsky, Striker, Vladimir Kozlov, Kevin Thorn, or Mike Knox.

 

I like Charlie Haas for his abilities but I don't think he'll ever amount to much in WWE.

[Guest SuperKick Kid]

Gimme a break, it was nearly 4am

 

I got a good one for Masters and I'm sure Vince would approve.

 

The Master Baker :xyx

 

 

 

:lol

[Omega 354]

The Boogeyman, seriously. I think you could have him do his current gimmick and just give him the exposure and he'd be fine. He doesn't need the mic skills and could easily have a manager to come in and do any long promo's that are needed. Maybe make him more scary than humerous and he could certainly play an role like the "old" undertaker before we all got to know and love Good ol' Mark.

 

I say this will work because at the end fo the day wrestling should be seen from a marks point of view not the horrible, over-blown smarky crap that goes for most of the IWC's opinion on things. Boogey is a great CHARACTER that is perfect for wrestling IMO. He doesn't need to ever become a champ per say but just a force in his own right....

[Guest Aholda]

Shelton Benjamin is lame as hell. He will never be anything other than an overrated midcarder.

 

Push Monty Brown, Burke, Punk and MVP to the moon.

 

Benjamin, Val Venis, Haas, Kendrick, man all of them are screwed in terms or being real stars. And I think they all suck anyways in terms of being pure performers. Yeah you can wrestle your ass off, but who lately has made it just from that? Benoit?

 

 

Oh, and I would love to see Orton take the belt off Cena's bitch ass.

[Guest Steve O]

The Boogeyman, seriously. I think you could have him do his current gimmick and just give him the exposure and he'd be fine. He doesn't need the mic skills and could easily have a manager to come in and do any long promo's that are needed. Maybe make him more scary than humerous and he could certainly play an role like the "old" undertaker before we all got to know and love Good ol' Mark.

 

I say this will work because at the end fo the day wrestling should be seen from a marks point of view not the horrible, over-blown smarky crap that goes for most of the IWC's opinion on things. Boogey is a great CHARACTER that is perfect for wrestling IMO. He doesn't need to ever become a champ per say but just a force in his own right....

 

Id give him a push......

 

 

..... DOWN THE STAIRS! :lol

[Guest Reno]

Shelton Benjamin is lame as hell. He will never be anything other than an overrated midcarder.

 

Push Monty Brown, Burke, Punk and MVP to the moon.

 

Benjamin, Val Venis, Haas, Kendrick, man all of them are screwed in terms or being real stars. And I think they all suck anyways in terms of being pure performers. Yeah you can wrestle your ass off, but who lately has made it just from that? Benoit?

 

 

Oh, and I would love to see Orton take the belt off Cena's bitch ass.

 

Rey Mysterio was a person HIGHLY unlikely to become a big star, even though he only became big because of the death of Eddie, he became more popular, mostly with the little kids and casual fans. Even I like him.

[Guest Sundaycall]

Chris Masters: I kinda like him but he is in need of some gimmick development. I don't know about having him "snap" ala Shamrock, cuz that got old pretty quick. I think an angle that would make sense for Masters (given his portrayed ego and moniker of The MasterPiece) would have him devlop into a competitor that became obsessed with the pursuit of perfection.

 

In every area, the masterlock has and can be broken by certain wrestlers, so he apodts an new finisher which he would label a perfect move (can't think of a name). His attention wud then turn to getting the perfect woman by his side (help with the promos), then the perfect entrance, then the perfect match and finally he'd move onto the attitude that the perfect wrestler is not perfect unless he is champion.

 

See him embark on an obsessive quest for the title in the pursuit of perfection.

 

See him lose matches because a certain move is countered and he refuses to stop attemptin the hold/move until he gets it right.

 

Have him attack and belittle fans and peers for "settling for less".

 

See him snap when he loses (gd motivation for a charcter like Masters to 'snap) and attack referees like Draven said but have this happen only occassionally as with the push and gimmick, he'd normally win comfortably.

 

Yes?

[Joey Asbo 45]

Yes.

[Guest Chriscare]

Chris Masters: I kinda like him but he is in need of some gimmick development. I don't know about having him "snap" ala Shamrock, cuz that got old pretty quick. I think an angle that would make sense for Masters (given his portrayed ego and moniker of The MasterPiece) would have him devlop into a competitor that became obsessed with the pursuit of perfection.

 

In every area, the masterlock has and can be broken by certain wrestlers, so he apodts an new finisher which he would label a perfect move (can't think of a name). His attention wud then turn to getting the perfect woman by his side (help with the promos), then the perfect entrance, then the perfect match and finally he'd move onto the attitude that the perfect wrestler is not perfect unless he is champion.

 

See him embark on an obsessive quest for the title in the pursuit of perfection.

 

See him lose matches because a certain move is countered and he refuses to stop attemptin the hold/move until he gets it right.

 

Have him attack and belittle fans and peers for "settling for less".

 

See him snap when he loses (gd motivation for a charcter like Masters to 'snap) and attack referees like Draven said but have this happen only occassionally as with the push and gimmick, he'd normally win comfortably.

 

Yes?

 

Like Draven said? pah

 

It's good in theory, but with his in wring skills, portraying him as someone trying to achieve perfection would be laughable

Edited June 8, 2007 by Chriscare

[Guest Slim Jim]

Tragic flaw is that it's Chris Masters.

[etz 78]

Tragic flaw is that it's Chris Masters.

 

Mind you, substitute MVP for Chris Masters and that is the most genius idea in wrestling since Taker beat Dave at WM. If you exclude that, then it's the most genius idea in about 3 years. PS can u tell I didn't want Botchtista ruining Takers streak.

 

Also, on a random side note, wtf is with Batistas 400 billion title shots when king booker never even got a rematch after batista won the title! Seriously, get that guy out of the title hunt. Also, most of his matches lately seem to have stupid finishes (double count out, 2 x feet touching the floor 2 milliseconds behind the other guy etc.) I know it's to keep him looking like a proper contender but lets be honest, the Miz could probably out-wrestle Dave.

 

 

 

 

um uh [/rant]

Seen Smackdown so the above is a bit irrelevant but mhe, u know he's going to win it at vengeance.

 

Ok, to be fair to Dave he hasn't sucked as much lately as he did after he first came back upto mania. His match with MVP tonight(or tuesday if you like) was pretty solid (more than the title matches against Booker ffs) and he seems to be getting back into the bigman routine. At least he could properly Batistabomb MVP in the tag the other day, unlike Kennedy earlier in the year. Doesn't mean the title should be on his waist anytime soon.

Edited June 9, 2007 by etz