Is Northern Ireland irish?

[Guest MrFill]

Since he's NOT Irish, and is Northern Irish, I'm sure quite a few people will take offence at this.

[Paul 584]

Northern Ireland IS STILL IRELAND!!!!! Its just the north. getting offended about it is stupid as you can be English and British, like irish and British.

 

 

besides....his gimmick is he is Irish. :lol

[Guest MrFill]

Northern Ireland IS STILL IRELAND!!!!! Its just the north. getting offended about it is stupid as you can be English and British' date=' like irish and British.[/quote']

Just like Scotland is just the north of England, so it's still England, right? :P

 

Ireland isn't part of the UK, Northern Ireland is.

[The Icon 152]

North Ireland IS part of the UK, but it's a part in the way Scotland and Wales are. That being it's still a seperate country.

[Guest MrFill]

Actually Darkie, you CAN'T be Irish and British - Ireland isn't part of the United Kingdom or Great Britain.

 

Unless of course you have dual nationality, then you could be.

[Paul 584]

Scotland isnt North england though fill. North OF England maybe.

England= English and British

Scotland= Scottish and british

Wales= Welsh and British

Northern ireland= irish and British

Jade goodey= stupid and britsh.

[Guest MrFill]

And Northern Ireland is north of Ireland - it's a Separate Country!

[Guest Da Pimpsta]

And Northern Ireland is north of Ireland - it's a Separate Country!

Now hold on Mr Fill you need to get your facts straight everyone here just calls it the north when Micheal Collins signed the document which said that there would be six counties up north which would still be british but really only TWO counties wanted to be part of britan and although I cant remember what the two counties were Micheal Collins still went ahead and signed it so technacally(sp?)only two counties up north are a different country so as you now know the whole debate gets me a bit well angry.

[Guest CoTT]

Scotland isnt North england though fill. North OF England maybe.

England= English and British

Scotland= Scottish and british

Wales= Welsh and British

Northern ireland= irish and British

Jade goodey= stupid and britsh.

 

Wrong! Northern Ireland isn't part of Britain, but it is a part of the UK. The UK's full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This argument is pointless anyway. Finlay's Irish. 'Nuff said.

[DC 536]

actually its nice to see the Mcmahons with there Irish heritage having an Irish character,though why Finlay cant have Princess Paula as his manager i dont know,anyone know if there still together?

Why would you not get Leprechauns in Northern Ireland?

 

clear it up

England -English anglo saxon Norman/viking descent

Wales-British Celtic/Roman descent

Ireland-Celtic descent

Scottish-British Celtic/Pictish/Irish Celtic/Angle descent

 

hope that clears everything up or shall i plug my History forum :lol

 

Cool.....I'm descended from an Olympic gold medallist...........And he won it with a broken freakin' neck.......what a fantastic bloodline I belong too.

[Guest Thirteen]

actually its nice to see the Mcmahons with there Irish heritage having an Irish character,though why Finlay cant have Princess Paula as his manager i dont know,anyone know if there still together?

Why would you not get Leprechauns in Northern Ireland?

 

clear it up

England -English anglo saxon Norman/viking descent

Wales-British Celtic/Roman descent

Ireland-Celtic descent

Scottish-British Celtic/Pictish/Irish Celtic/Angle descent

 

hope that clears everything up or shall i plug my History forum :lol

So did England never have Roman Settlers?

[Guest The B-Man]

Wrong! Northern Ireland isn't part of Britain' date=' but it is a part of the UK. The UK's full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This argument is pointless anyway. Finlay's Irish. 'Nuff said.[/quote']

 

Wrong again.

 

Northern Ireland IS part of Britian it's not part of Great Britian.

[Guest Chriscare]

Wrong! Northern Ireland isn't part of Britain' date=' but it is a part of the UK. The UK's full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This argument is pointless anyway. Finlay's Irish. 'Nuff said.[/quote']

 

I think the term british comes from 'The British Isles' rather than Great Britain. Ireland is part of the British Isles, therefore irish people are British

[Guest The B-Man]

Isn't this a bit of a moot point? Finlay is an Irishman regardless of whether he's from the North or the South of Ireland. It's like saying I'm not an Englishman because I'm from the North of England not the South. If you ask any man from either Dublin or Belfast if they're Irish, they'd say yes in most cases.

 

As far the this leprechaun cobblers is concerned, how far do you think WWE will go with the Irish stereotyping? Isn't the shelalagh(sp?) and green clover on his attire enough to tell us he's Irish? I'm not sure how the little guy is going to help Finlay. Not sure it will work TBH.

 

 

Actually if you ask a man in Dublin if he is Irish he will say yes. I would be careful who and where you ask in Belfast.

[Paul 584]

And Northern Ireland is north of Ireland - it's a Separate Country!

 

 

Yes Fill North IRELAND!!!! Shall I repeat? North IRELAND!!!! :lol

 

 

Anyway, from Wiki:

 

Northern Irish nationality

People from Northern Ireland are citizens of the UK on the same basis as people from any other part of the UK (i.e. by birth in the UK to at least one parent who is a UK permanent resident or citizen, or by naturalisation).

 

In addition, however, anyone born in Northern Ireland before 2005 (and most persons born in 2005 or later) is also entitled to citizenship of the Republic of Ireland (ROI). This is as a result of the Republic of Ireland extending its nationality law on an extra-territorial basis in 2001 about as a result of the Belfast Agreement of 1998, which stated that:

 

The two governments recognise the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so choose, and accordingly confirm that their right to hold both British and Irish citizenship is accepted by both Governments and would not be affected by any future change in the status of Northern Ireland.

 

Also its true that Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, but it is part of the UK.......so British isnt really the correct term is it? Maybe Kingish.

Barry is right that it id part of the British Isles, and so is in theory Britain, but so is the ROI.

 

I think this needs splitting....

[Guest A.C.]

"Ireland" is the name for an Island of Western Europe. The Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland share this Island. People from this island are from Ireland and therefore are "Irish", semantically at least.

[Guest The B-Man]

To break it up further. There is the following:

 

Britain - Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales

 

Great Britain - England, Scotland, Wales

 

UK - Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales

 

So basically Acid is saying Canadians are American since they are part of the same land mass North America.

[Paul 584]

However Baz, you still miss that Canada isnt called North America while North Ireland IS called well.....North Ireland! :P

 

And by what you are saying everyone in Britain can be called English, Welsh or Scottish if fform the respective countries, but from NI means you are nothing but British? Is that a bit elitist? :lol

[Guest The B-Man]

However Baz, you still miss that Canada isnt called North America while North Ireland IS called well.....North Ireland! :P

 

And by what you are saying everyone in Britain can be called English, Welsh or Scottish if fform the respective countries, but from NI means you are nothing but British? Is that a bit elitist? :lol

 

No Darky it's called NORTHERN Ireland. Is it that hard to say Northern Irish??

[Guest MrFill]

However Baz' date=' you still miss that Canada isnt called North America while North Ireland IS called well.....North Ireland! :P[/quote']

But Canada is part of the continent of North America, which means that they should be called Americans, since they're on the same land mass & continent.

 

It's "North of Ireland", but the country is called NorthERN Ireland.

 

Tell you what, go over to Belfast and tell them that they're Irish - see how long you last. :lol

[Paul 584]

Tell you what, go over to Belfast and tell them that they're Irish - see how long you last. :lol

 

 

My stepmum and her family are from Northern Ireland, they say they are Irish. My grandfathers family came from Belfast and said they were Irish. So maybe, just maybe, I know what I am on about with family ties and all. :P People may consider themselves to be other than they are, doesn't alter the basic facts really.

I will conceed Barrys point about saying someone is Northern Irish quite happily as that would be the most ideal. However missing off the Northern is hardly something worth getting offended over is it?

Edited May 7, 2006 by Paul

[Guest Inno]

once we get this cleared up, can we start fighting over leprechauns? :D

[Guest MrFill]

However missing off the Northern is hardly something worth getting offended over is it?

And yet they seem to like fighting over it. :P

[Guest Russ]

once we get this cleared up' date=' can we start fighting over leprechauns? :D[/quote']

 

Typical response from a North Englander. :roll

[Guest Inno]

Shut it Teuchter boy :P