Who's tougher New Jack or Cena?

[lawrence619 13]

This discussion started on the rvd ons2 thread, so i wanted to throw it out to everyone at two[ just to make it clear im talking about a shoot ]. In my opinion New jack would get ripped apart by Cena. New jack has never been a legit tough guy the rumours about him are just that.... rumours. The only time he starts a fight with someone is when he can hit them from behind, or when he knows they either cant or wont fight back. He's a bully and a coward. What does everyone else think?

[Guest MojoPogo]

You ARE kidding right? Cena would get annihilated! Seriously. i've never seen Cena take a legitimately huge bump, whereas im surprised New Jack is still in one piece frankly!

[lawrence619 13]

lol!! yeah cause taking bumps is what matters when your having a fight! By logic foley must be the hardest man alive.

 

I'm still laughing that was so funny!!!

 

i meant to say your logic!

 

[EDIT]- Learn to edit your posts or they'll simply be deleted.

Edited April 26, 2006 by MrFill

[Nimf 324]

See on your post thing? There's this little thing called an edit button...

 

Now if youre talking a full on fight? Cena would be totally anihilated...

[Guest MojoPogo]

Ever seen Cena fight? Going by his punches, he'd get the sh*t knocked out of him by someone remotely hard, and yes, i do rate how hard someone is on there ability to absorb punishment, so yes, Mick Foley, is a hard hard man! After all, how many times can you knock the crap out of someone and they still get up and not get spooked?

[lawrence619 13]

so on that basis spike is a hardman, mikey whipreck is a hardman just about anyone who has taken an insane bump is a hard man, and because the guy cant throw a worked punch he cant fight? Taking punishment in a worked environment is not the same as in a shoot one, i dont think you seem to understand that antihero!!

[Guest MojoPogo]

Ever seen Cena fight in a shoot environment? No. And by the way, this is only MY opinion, m'kay! Settle down lad.

[lawrence619 13]

I havent seen cena fight in a shoot environment but im pretty sure you havent either,so you have no basis in which to claim the guy cant fight. [other than in your opinion he cant throw a worked punch]

[Guest Ro_y Disco]

If we are talking a "fighting" fight then Cena would easily win- he's quicker and stronger than New Jack.

 

However, in an anything goes type fight, I'd have to go for New Jack. I honestly believe that in real life he would fight much the same way he does in wrestling (but not so over the top obviously) and would't hesitate to use any weapon or under-hand tactic to win.

 

Overall, I'd say Cena has the upper-hand (but 'Taker could kick both their asses!!).

[Guest Christof]

This thread gives me a headache. It's like the Franchise when he started all over again.

[lawrence619 13]

In an anything goes fight you'd have to go for New jack why? If anything goes then Cena is entitled to use weapons to so they would be evenly matched. With the outcome being the same as what you said it would be if they had a "fighting" fight.... cena would easily win!!!

[Guest Ro_y Disco]

In an anything goes fight you'd have to go for New jack why? If anything goes then Cena is entitled to use weapons to so they would be evenly matched. With the outcome being the same as what you said it would be if they had a "fighting" fight.... cena would easily win!!!

 

Not quite sure how to explain it but New Jack's used to using weapons and is less compationate so wouldn't hesitate. Cena's middle class so is less used to street fighting.

Cliched yes. Unfounded yes...

[lawrence619 13]

Not quite sure how to explain it but New Jack's used to using weapons and is less compationate so wouldn't hesitate. Cena's middle class so is less used to street fighting.

Cliched yes. Unfounded yes...

Fair enough.

[Guest Hemme]

To be fair here Cena could actually be quite tough, he's well put together & we've never seen him in a real fight, so who knows the guy could be pretty tough. However, I'd safely wager that New Jack is tougher, have you seen his hands? The guy has no knuckles due to smacking people about, dude, THATS tough.

[Guest The Beltster]

New Jack would kick the **** out of Cena, no doubt. The guy used to be a friggin bounty hunter for Christ sake, you have to know how to look after yourself in that line of work, he has killed 2 or 3 people also, so you know he is crazy and psychotic and he is the type of person who, if he gets started, wont stop until he is dragged off or you are dead, and those types of people are not to be screwed around with.

 

Anybody who thinks Cena would handle New Jack is, quite frankly, kidding themselves...get real.

[The Fury 65]

please remember this is new jack were talking about. If it was a match in new jacks environment, cena wont live-he would get mauled (which would be much to the delight of the fans:lol )

 

new jack has taken so much punishment he's use to the pain, the knuckles are gone through the hard punches, the permanent scar on his forehead, he had a pole through his testicles in a match for god sake!

 

new jack hands down.

[Guest Dave7g]

Lets see, New Jack killed 2 people and is completely mentally unstable. The only thing Cena could kill would be a) The music business, and b) live crowds.

 

Honestly this was the funniest thread i've ever seen.

 

To be fair here Cena could actually be quite tough' date=' he's well put together & we've never seen him in a [b']good match[/b].

 

Fixed.

Edited April 26, 2006 by Paul

[Guest Hemme]

Fixed.

Meh,. same goes for New Jack too.

:P

[Guest MartynJ]

In a real fight on the streets New Jack would kill cena with his hands or the nearest weapon he could find NOT because he is harder or tougher BUT because he is more mental and dosent give a s*it about himself or other people if there injored or not

 

If your 5ft or 7ft it dosent realy matter if your f*cked up in the head and dont care

 

If it was a real life streetfight Cena would run a mile in a matter of seconds

[Guest Dave7g]

Meh,. same goes for New Jack too.

:P

 

I dunno, the Mass Transit match is quite...entertaining.

[Guest Thirteen]

This discussion started on the rvd ons2 thread' date=' so i wanted to throw it out to everyone at two[ just to make it clear im talking about a shoot ']. In my opinion New jack would get ripped apart by Cena. New jack has never been a legit tough guy the rumours about him are just that.... rumours. The only time he starts a fight with someone is when he can hit them from behind, or when he knows they either cant or wont fight back. He's a bully and a coward. What does everyone else think?

 

Just replied to this in another thread Because I've only just noticed this one so I'll post it again.

 

New Jack is a former bounty hunter with kills to his name.

 

On top of that the majority of wrestlers in the business are scared shitless of him(that should tell you something right there).

 

The brother is legitamate, Cena is a body-building wrestler.

Can you see the difference?

 

If not let me break it down for you:

Cena could not survive prison, New Jack has(on more then one occassion).

Cena could not survive on the streets, New Jack can.

Cena is not sadistic enough or have the killer instinct that's needed to survive a REAL fight in the street.

 

I dont know what you consider a real street fight but where I come from you bite a persons ear off, Stamp on their groin repeatedly, stick a knife into the navel area and proceed to rip upwards, you stick a broken bottle into their eye socket, you stick a cork screw into their kidneys, you smash their nose in repeatedly with a knuckle duster.

 

This aint MMA or UFC it's the STREETS.

Something Cena has no idea about apart from watching MTV listening to Tupac and watching over the top 'Hood' movies to try and perfect his character.

 

The guys a college student from Massachusettes(sp?) or wherever who started bodybuilding and wrestling.

Me and my friends used to knock out bodybuilding bouncers who were supposedly Kick Boxers etc on a regular basis(TRUE STORY) and that's by no means me bragging because anyone can get their head kicked in at anytime no one's Superman including me. But that's just an honest example.

 

It's not about the size or conditioning. It's about the mind state, the willingness to go just that bit further and do what the next man wont that determine the outcome my friend.

 

You need to have lived a certain life and been through certain experiences to acquire that type of mentality and disposition.

Something Cena has not done.

 

All you *****s who actually feed into that Thuganomics BS make me laugh.

You actually believe in his gimmick.

Why don't you try rewinding back to when he was wearing those baby blue trunks and wack ass gimmick and then come back here and try and legitamise your fake thug hero.

[lawrence619 13]

Just replied to this in another thread Because I've only just noticed this one so I'll post it again.

I definately dont buy into cenas gimmick quite frankly the guy is a fraud. i also wouldnt dispute what your saying about someones mind set, it doesnt matter how big or small you are being tough does have a lot to do with how far you are willing to go. i just dont think this applies to new jack i personally think the guy is as big a fake as cena is. If you forget about his in ring exploits for a minute, [which are impressive] the guy is anything but tough as its been well documented that he chooses carefully who he picks on. Like i said when i started this thread hes a bully and coward!!!

[Guest Thirteen]

I definately dont buy into cenas gimmick quite frankly the guy is a fraud. i also wouldnt dispute what your saying about someones mind set' date=' it doesnt matter how big or small you are being tough does have a lot to do with how far you are willing to go. i just dont think this applies to new jack i personally think the guy is as big a fake as cena is. If you forget about his in ring exploits for a minute, [which are impressive'] the guy is anything but tough as its been well documented that he chooses carefully who he picks on. Like i said when i started this thread hes a bully and coward!!!

I disagree... to be a bounty hunter(especially in a place like America where there is no gun control) you have to be anything but a coward or a bully(a bully is a coward).:xyx

And cowards don't tend to last very long in prisons either.:xyx

[Guest Nemesis Enforcer]

New Jack would kill Cena in a heartbeat simple really, Cena is not a legit tough guy and New Jack is (its not just rumours) he as has been said used to be a bounty hunter, he has killed guys before he also calls people out face to face, when he left ECW (after it folded) he went to CZW where alot of the guys didn't like ECW wrestlers, he told them all on his first night there, "anyone who has a problem with me we can go to the parking lot right now and have it out, but after that there is no **** about me being form ECW ok" he never attacked anyone from behind

 

Cena would not stand a chance in a real fight at all

[lawrence619 13]

I disagree... to be a bounty hunter(especially in a place like America where there is no gun control) you have to be anything but a coward or a bully(a bully is a coward).:xyx

And cowards don't tend to last very long in prisons either.:xyx

so do you know new jack? how do you know how he got on in prison?You obviously buy into the new jack gimmick more than any cena marks buy into his charatcter!! I also wasnt aware that if you were a bounty hunter it made you incapable of bullying or behaving cowardly, do you have documented evidence or is it just made up like the rest of your post!!!!