Evil Gringo 279 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Brock Lesnar and World Wrestling Entertainment Inc. have agreed to settle a lawsuit regarding a non-competition agreement he signed after he quit wrestling in March 2004. Lesnar, a former WWE champion, filed the lawsuit in February 2005, asking the court to rule the non-competition agreement unenforceable. The WWE responded by asking the court to prohibit Lesnar from competing as a professional wrestler, "sports entertainer" or ultimate fighter anywhere in the world until mid-2010. Terms of the settlement were not disclosed. David Bradley Olsen, an attorney with Minneapolis-based Henson & Efron, represented Lesnar on the case. "Although the settlement with WWE does not give Brock the clear-cut court victory he was looking for, it does provide him with the certainty he needs to pursue new ventures while he is still in his athletic prime," Olsen said in a statement. Lesnar, who wrestled at the University of Minnesota before joining the WWE, has been wrestling professionally in Japan since last fall. He is considering a variety of career options, including mixed martial arts competition, movies and television. "Lesnar is not considering a return to WWE at this time," Olsen said. Well this may have come about due to a number of things... Lesnar agreeing not to work as part of the NJPW/TNA exchange scheme is one that jumps to mind plus the WWE being allowed access to the NJPW tape libeary for some of the WWE's superstars older Japanese matches... People like Eddie, Beniot, Malenko, Jericho etc... Still good news potentially in the long run and I can't wait to see what was settled upon in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan 188 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Lesnar/WWE settle lawsuit by Dave Meltzer Dave@wrestlingobserver.com Brock Lesnar and WWE have reached a settlement agreement on the non-compete lawsuit. Lesnar was looking to get out of his non-compete for anything related to sports entertainment as well as ultimate fighting through the year 2010, world wide. Terms were not announced. Lesnar will be able to participate in wrestling and ultimate fighting with certain agreed upon restrictions, as it was not a full victory to Lesnar. While not stated, it is believed he would not be allowed to work for TNA. Lesnar is said to be considering doing MMA, now that he is legally able. From Meltzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Gringo 279 Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 He is out of shape for that kind of competition and can only work 10 minute or so long matches for NJPW at the moment due to this lawsuit stopping him going on tours... If he went to MMA he'd get killed, and I mean that completely. Screw your credentials in the past, they'd eat up up Lesnar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig Van Dam Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Well I'm glad this has finally ended, it's going to be interesting to see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan 188 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) To be "frank"....Lesnar's only realistic option would be WWE, i mean like Gringo said Lesnar would get eaten alive in MMA, he cant work for TNA, there is Japan though, but if i was Lesnar i'd go to WWE, but thats just me. talking about Lesnar's shape...well it hasnt got anything to do with it but he REALLY should'nt of got that Tattoo. Edited April 24, 2006 by Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nemesis Enforcer Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 He is out of shape for that kind of competition and can only work 10 minute or so long matches for NJPW at the moment due to this lawsuit stopping him going on tours... If he went to MMA he'd get killed, and I mean that completely. Screw your credentials in the past, they'd eat up up Lesnar! I don't agree with that at all, I think Lesnar would have a very good chance in MMA's personally, true he is not in the same shape that he was in WWE but he is still an impressive guy to look at and he has the ACTUAL wrestling manovers to go with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Gringo 279 Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 He won't as they have already expressed no desire in meeting his demands of a lowered schduele, salary and title push... Where as in Japan he will get that one way or another through NJPW or other companies like DSE and their Hustle, Z-1 and Kings Road enterprises... This just means Lesnar can collect his big golden egg's from New Japan whilst he gets a bit tubby and the WWE can raid their tape's whilst knowing he can't turn up on the only possible competition they have's TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Gringo 279 Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 I don't agree with that at all' date=' I think Lesnar would have a very good chance in MMA's personally, true he is not in the same shape that he was in WWE but he is still an impressive guy to look at and he has the ACTUAL wrestling manovers to go with it[/quote'] If he fought in the MMA world in Japan he'd have to be protected like Sapp was to get any success... His punching and stamina are lack compared to the top guys there and the actual scope to nail any of the wrestling moves he pulls out is minimal. If he fought a CroCrop or a Ignashov or a Barrlett he'd be floored quick as anything. If he went to the UFC he be flipped like a turtle and chocked out, rest assured of this fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave7g Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Hopefully this TNA speculation is just that, speculation. It would have been great to see Lesnar showing up at a PPV. I do agree that he would get killed in MMA, but i'd like to see that too. (Not him being killed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nemesis Enforcer Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 If he fought in the MMA world in Japan he'd have to be protected like Sapp was to get any success... His punching and stamina are lack compared to the top guys there and the actual scope to nail any of the wrestling moves he pulls out is minimal. If he fought a CroCrop or a Ignashov or a Barrlett he'd be floored quick as anything. If he went to the UFC he be flipped like a turtle and chocked out, rest assured of this fact. So you have taken a punch off Lesnar have you, same as you have fought in the UFC, its easy to say Brock would be thrown and chocked out etc in an instant but unless he did it you'd never know same as I don't know he wouldn't, but he has alot going for him, he is big, strong and agile with it, he may not be in shape now but that doesn't mean he can't get back into the shape he was in during his WWE days. I wouldn't write him off so fast until it has happened, alot of MMA's guys think they are so great, look at a while ago when some went toe to toe with some wrestlers (for real in a hotel) they were beaten sensless by the wrestlers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Inno Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Can you seriously say that Lesnar would be able to hang with Tim Sylvia or Andre Arlovski? Hell, even Frank Mir or if you really want to hammer the point home, Wanderlei Silva and Chuck Liddell, despite the weight difference? I can't. In fact, I'm actually laughing inside at the thought of it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yoyo Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Phew. Glad that lawsuit is over. That thing went on waaaayyy to long. I think WWE will signing him again but thats just me. Shame about the TNA thing. He would be awesome in TNA and TNA would be soaring higher after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidel Cashflow 130 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 About the whole MMA thing, do you guys really feel that if he put all his effort into it he wouldn't be a solid MMA'er. The guy is a two time NCAA national champion, not some failed football player(well he is, but beyond that point). At one point the guy was one of the best pure wrestlers in the world, you can't tell me he would get eaten alive. Watch some of his amatuer matches, the guy was an absolute beast on the mat, that's something that ALOT of fighters out there can't claim. If Lesnar worked for two years gaining some experience and getting back into proper shape he would be one of the best in the world. With that size, quickness, and expertise it would be impossible for him not to succeed. I'd look at a complete MMA Brock Lesnar package as a bigger, stronger, faster version of Dan Severn or Mark Coleman. And we know how far they went. P.S.-Frank Mir is the best heavyweight in the world with Fedor a VERY close second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Gringo 279 Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 About the whole MMA thing, do you guys really feel that if he put all his effort into it he wouldn't be a solid MMA'er. The guy is a two time NCAA national champion, not some failed football player(well he is, but beyond that point). At one point the guy was one of the best pure wrestlers in the world, you can't tell me he would get eaten alive. Watch some of his amatuer matches, the guy was an absolute beast on the mat, that's something that ALOT of fighters out there can't claim. If Lesnar worked for two years gaining some experience and getting back into proper shape he would be one of the best in the world. With that size, quickness, and expertise it would be impossible for him not to succeed. I'd look at a complete MMA Brock Lesnar package as a bigger, stronger, faster version of Dan Severn or Mark Coleman. And we know how far they went. P.S.-Frank Mir is the best heavyweight in the world with Fedor a VERY close second. I'm going off the fact that Lesnar wants to rush into the MMA for the money now with the shape his is in at this point and also the Lumbago he was carring into the last NJPW PPV he was on... That is the Lesnar that I am saying will get killed... If he worked hard and trained and looked into some solid strike training on top of sharping his mat game back up then who knows... But until then he would be KO fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russ Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Lesnar couldn't handle it when WWE required him to be on the road for weeks/months at a time. How the hell would he be able to cope with being locked away from the rest of the world for an equally long amount of time where he spends every minute of every day training for a fight? He might have all the physical skills needed to make a mark in pro wrestling, but there's no way Brock Lesnar has the mental attributes needed to make it in MMA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrFill Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Look at other pro wrestlers who have tried their hand at MMA. Sean O'Haire and Aaron "Jesus" Aguilera both got defeated REALLY quicky, the later by Butterbean on Saturday night. I can't see him being in any kind of shape to compete decently in MMA - he'd have to put in months of training before I'd even give him a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed_666 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I don't know what sort of shape Lesnar is in at the moment, but I don't think he'd get "eaten alive" in MMA like many of you say. For a start he's got the wrestling skills, plus speed, but the main thing is he's unbelievably strong, so he can do a lot of things many other fighters wouldn't be able to, like escape from the ground etc. Take the Matt Hughes-Frank Trigg match for example: Trigg hit Hughes in the nuts, smashed him in a face a few times (I thought he was out at that point), and then ended up with a sleeper on him. What did Hughes do? Picked him up on his shoulders, slammed him down, beat on him, and then made him tap out to a choke! Now imagine that Lesnar has an even higher strength to weight ratio as Hughes, what could he do if he could get his hands on people? I think he'd do a lot better than people are giving him credit for. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MojoPogo Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 The one thing i reckon is certain, is WWE wont hire him back, unless he comes crawling back and accepts there terms, which is exactly what this court case was aiming at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevehayes2005 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 why has Brock Lesnar lost a bit of muscle since his WWE days then - I only watched him briefly in WWE years ago and looked massive then ... Since I started watching wrestling again in 2005 I haven't seen him again - has he put on weight ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrFill Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 why has Brock Lesnar lost a bit of muscle since his WWE days then - I only watched him briefly in WWE years ago and looked massive then ... Since I started watching wrestling again in 2005 I haven't seen him again - has he put on weight ??? He's lost muscle and put on weight. Why? Probably because he wasn't competing for ages, so got lazy, but now that he's back wrestling, he might put the muscle back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevehayes2005 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 anyone got any latest pics of Lesnar that they can postplease? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlito is cool Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Agree what the majority of people are saying Brock would get absolutely hammered in MMA unless he was fighting bottom of the barrel bums and even then it isn't a foregone conclusion. Whens the last time he had a legitimate contest which allowed strikes and chokes? If he thinks he can walk straight in with the big boys hes badly mistaken he would get smashed up by a mediocre HW MMA fighter and i shudder to think what the elite guys would do to him. As for whoever mentioned wrestlers beating up kickboxers that was a minor scuffle at a hotel in birmingham between 20 stone Batista and 11 stone local kickboxer Kash 'the flash' Gill who i know and is hardly a top draw Martial Artist :lol But imagine how big Lesnar vs Sapp would be in Japan as a wrestling match or mma contest!!! I think his best bet is to stay in Japan Wrestling for the time being and see if anything with the wwe develops in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Twig Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 anyone got any latest pics of Lesnar that they can postplease? http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/1676/body0422my.jpg His sword tattoo looks different than I remember, but it still looks terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlito is cool Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/1676/body0422my.jpg His sword tattoo looks different than I remember, but it still looks terrible. Yeah i swear his tattoo has changed! As for being in shape his Traps, Chest and Arms look fine he could just do with dropping the fat off the gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Twig Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) Yeah i swear his tattoo has changed! As for being in shape his Traps, Chest and Arms look fine he could just do with dropping the fat off the gut. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5711/15937297511lz.jpg http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9968/iwgpbrocklesnardebut00016so.jpg He's lost mass in his entire torso, but he's still 100lbs of muscle bigger than I. He looks his flabbiest in that picture on the right. And it's the damndest thing but I for some reason remember his sword tattoo being longer. Obviously not, though. Edited April 25, 2006 by Twig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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