WWE backing out of tag-teams?

[Guest Dicky]

are the WWE moving away from tag teams now? i mean they have lost the dudleys, E &C, the hardys etc....i mean there is a lack of tag teams and im wondering why all these tag teams have left and split up? is it WWE's fault or wot?

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

are the WWE moving away from tag teams now? i mean they have lost the dudleys' date=' E &C, the hardys etc....i mean there is a lack of tag teams and im wondering why all these tag teams have left and split up? is it WWE's fault or wot?[/quote']

 

You are about 3 years too late with that comment.

 

Welcome to 2006. WWE: We dont 'do' tag teams.

[Guest Phox]

<3 MNM though, they reek of greatness. And the Mexicools and of course Spanky and London...

RAW's tag team division is pretty much non-existent though...

[Guest Dicky]

i dont understand why they dont have tag teams thought, i mean they still do alot of tag team matches but the tag team divisions are shocking now, not like back in the good old days

[DC 536]

I think they should have a unification match with the RAW and Smackdown belts, then have them defended only on Smackdown!, with all the actual teams on there.....WWE has access to a decent tag division on both rosters, but they never get to face each other....plus hire Balls & Axl and Doring & Roadkill to stir it up a little, maybe even bring in Chris Chetti, have him rag on the Simon Dean character, then team up with Nova again.......just a thought.

[Guest stevehayes2005]

also the newish tag team of JAMIE NOBLE and KID KASH are pretty amazing - bet heel tag team in WWE today ! Plus Cade and Murdoch are going to reform on RAW I think ...

[Guest the HiTman]

MNM are the only proper tag team in the whole of the WWE as far as I'm concerened...the rest are bunged together for quick fixes or holding title runs (Kane/Show).

 

What would be good, and clever, would be to have the cruisers run the tag division...that would be awesome. It would give them TV time and would undoubtedly make some stars...not to mention compete with TNA's X-Division to a certain degree.

[Guest stevehayes2005]

MNM are good but are getting a bit boring now after over a year of being on SD. Plus Melin's constant yelling is soooooo annoying !!! Mercury is an awesome wrestler who I remember with York in ECW but Nitro is not in the same class as him and I doubt MNM will be together as a dominant tag team for too much longer.

[Guest Clarkey]

MNM, Londrick, Gymini, Kash and Noble, Val and Viscera, Snitsdust, The Spirit Squad, The Mexicools. Just some names of teams off the top of my head, and one could throw in the Bashams whom are still signed up. Haas/Benjamin if they wished to go that way and Conway/Dupree who worked a dark match the other week. I always find this argument flawed as like I just listed there are so many there to work with, especially on Smackdown, so I can't see how anyone is just in saying that WWE has just 'ditched' tag teams. The way I would deem it is that they are not utilising the teams they have to the greatest and fullest extent, and with the building blocks they have on SD they are not slotting the bricks together to make a great division. But thats not to say that they will not in the near future. We have Londrick and MNM fueding, other teams can be added to the mix and hey presto there is your division. Raw I do worry about, maybe it is wise to just move the tag division to SD rather then just try the balancing act? Sure it has its negatives that are way too obvious to point out, but I feel it would be better to add to the solid line up of teams on SD and have a great division rather then two watered down divisions. And as Raw is the WWE's clear favourite in terms show, they can then focus on pushing their singles fueds to the fullest extent on there while SD can be the mixed bag for everyone (and continue as it has been, which is great due to this mixed bag approach.)

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

MNM' date=' Londrick, Gymini, Kash and Noble, Val and Viscera, Snitsdust, The Spirit Squad, The Mexicools. Just some names of teams off the top of my head, and one could throw in the Bashams whom are still signed up. Haas/Benjamin if they wished to go that way and Conway/Dupree who worked a dark match the other week. I always find this argument flawed as like I just listed there are so many there to work with, especially on Smackdown, so I can't see how anyone is just in saying that WWE has just 'ditched' tag teams. The way I would deem it is that they are [b']not utilising the teams they have to the greatest and fullest extent[/b], and with the building blocks they have on SD they are not slotting the bricks together to make a great division. But thats not to say that they will not in the near future. We have Londrick and MNM fueding, other teams can be added to the mix and hey presto there is your division. Raw I do worry about, maybe it is wise to just move the tag division to SD rather then just try the balancing act? Sure it has its negatives that are way too obvious to point out, but I feel it would be better to add to the solid line up of teams on SD and have a great division rather then two watered down divisions. And as Raw is the WWE's clear favourite in terms show, they can then focus on pushing their singles fueds to the fullest extent on there while SD can be the mixed bag for everyone (and continue as it has been, which is great due to this mixed bag approach.)

 

Thats the bit I agree with. The way that V-squared, Snitsky and Goldust, and Kash/Noble only get to wrestle on Heat/Velocity if they're lucky makes it hard to label them as real tag teams. When is the last time any of those teams wrestled on an A-show?

 

And thats the point. We can sit here all day and say "They have these teams and could do this...", but face it, they are not going to put any amount of effort into either tag division.

[Guest the HiTman]

MNM' date=' Londrick, Gymini, Kash and Noble, Val and Viscera, Snitsdust, The Spirit Squad, The Mexicools. Just some names of teams off the top of my head, and one could throw in the Bashams whom are still signed up. Haas/Benjamin if they wished to go that way and Conway/Dupree who worked a dark match the other week. I always find this argument flawed as like I just listed there are so many there to work with, especially on Smackdown, so I can't see how anyone is just in saying that WWE has just 'ditched' tag teams. The way I would deem it is that they are not utilising the teams they have to the greatest and fullest extent, and with the building blocks they have on SD they are not slotting the bricks together to make a great division. But thats not to say that they will not in the near future. We have Londrick and MNM fueding, other teams can be added to the mix and hey presto there is your division. Raw I do worry about, maybe it is wise to just move the tag division to SD rather then just try the balancing act? Sure it has its negatives that are way too obvious to point out, but I feel it would be better to add to the solid line up of teams on SD and have a great division rather then two watered down divisions. And as Raw is the WWE's clear favourite in terms show, they can then focus on pushing their singles fueds to the fullest extent on there while SD can be the mixed bag for everyone (and continue as it has been, which is great due to this mixed bag approach.)[/quote']

 

How many of those tags have been in a decent run of matches on RAW or SD lately....none, not even MNM have had proper feud for the titles. MNM weren't even at WM22. I think i rest my case re the bunged together tags...you named a few yourself...waste of time rubbish because these 'stars' have nothing else to do. As for the Spirt Squad...they can **** off because they do not belong on our screens wasting WWE time.

[Guest Clarkey]

I agree with some of what you both are saying, but what I was being blunt with and obviously haven't made clear ebough is that people are saying that the WWE has ditched tag teams, yet if that is the case then why are there so many. But do disapprove with the point you raised that these stars are teamed are 'waste of time rubbish' and because these stars have nothing else to do. Londrick have been teaming for months on Velocity, and are now getting their run at the titles, the Mexicools were the same kettle of fish and I am sure Kash and Noble will get a run at them in the future. Just because they are not appearing on SD or Raw every week does not mean that they are being negated. There is only so much room on a two hour show, and I particularly hate the way in which people are neagating the use of Velocity and Heat. Both of these shows have been key in getting over talents with the crowd before an SD or Raw run, even more key with Tag teams as has been seen on SD these past two weeks, a team that has been working hard and getting over on Velocity are now getting their chance on SD. Because of their time on Velocity, a period getting over with the crowd, the crowd now cares enough about them to have a run for the titles on SD. Snitsdust I predict will be the exact same kettle of fish on Raw, they will win over the crowd on Heat and when over will get their run on Raw.

 

Just because they are not appearing on the A Shows does not mean they are not a 'real' tag team. It is the breeding ground where everything is honed. Of course unless you want every team to be like the Bashams, and win the titles around their first appearance, when no one cares and thus are quickly dropped. I know this is how also MNM debuted, but MNM had a strong enough gimmick to get over fast. Working on Heat and Velocity and honing your tag team craft before getting the big SD run is the way to go for me, and in my eyes it is clearly what the WWE is doing.

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

I agree with some of what you both are saying, but what I was being blunt with and obviously haven't made clear ebough is that people are saying that the WWE has ditched tag teams, yet if that is the case then why are there so many. But do disapprove with the point you raised that these stars are teamed are 'waste of time rubbish' and because these stars have nothing else to do. Londrick have been teaming for months on Velocity, and are now getting their run at the titles, the Mexicools were the same kettle of fish and I am sure Kash and Noble will get a run at them in the future. Just because they are not appearing on SD or Raw every week does not mean that they are being negated. There is only so much room on a two hour show, and I particularly hate the way in which people are neagating the use of Velocity and Heat. Both of these shows have been key in getting over talents with the crowd before an SD or Raw run, even more key with Tag teams as has been seen on SD these past two weeks, a team that has been working hard and getting over on Velocity are now getting their chance on SD. Because of their time on Velocity, a period getting over with the crowd, the crowd now cares enough about them to have a run for the titles on SD. Snitsdust I predict will be the exact same kettle of fish on Raw, they will win over the crowd on Heat and when over will get their run on Raw.

 

Just because they are not appearing on the A Shows does not mean they are not a 'real' tag team. It is the breeding ground where everything is honed. Of course unless you want every team to be like the Bashams, and win the titles around their first appearance, when no one cares and thus are quickly dropped. I know this is how also MNM debuted, but MNM had a strong enough gimmick to get over fast. Working on Heat and Velocity and honing your tag team craft before getting the big SD run is the way to go for me, and in my eyes it is clearly what the WWE is doing.

 

They may be building a couple of teams up on Heat/Velocity right now, and that will be well and dandy when/if they work out in the coming months. But right now, and it has been the case for quite a while, there is no strong Tag Division on either A-show, which are the ones that really matter. Taking a quick look at the last 'Golden Era', so to speak, with TLC etc., the Tag Division was a major part of the show, the teams were pushed to the moon and incredibly over, and the belts meant something to win. Nowadays, a Tag match (with actualy tag teams, not mainevent tag matches) is usually a curtain jerker, or just plain filler. The Tag belts dont mean what they used to.

 

MNM and London/Kendrick are now feuding on SD, yes, but if history serves one, London/Kendrick will lose, drop back down to Velocity, and MNM do it all again with the next 'challengers'. The Gymini are Simon Dean's muscle more than Title contenders. Big Show/Kane and Carlito/Masters had a so-so feud with the sole purpose of eventually breaking up both teams, and in the beginning were thrown-together teams anyway. See, apart from the actual title feud going on, NONE of the other teams a) seem like legitimate threats to a Tag Title, and b) seem to want to win the Tag Titles.

 

I do see some promise with the new crop of Cruiser teams on SD. And its not like they've given up entirely. But the fact is, they ARE pitifully underused.

[Guest Brick]

WWE seem to be chaging their ways when it comes to Tag Teams recently, they're sorting out the Cruisers too by partnering them up as Tag Teams. Eg, Mexicools, London & Kendrick, Noble & Kash etc. They're killing two birds with one stone, it's great.

[Nimf 324]

but if history serves one' date=' London/Kendrick will lose, drop back down to Velocity.[/quote']

 

How can you say such evil things?!?

 

In regards to the tag team debate, there arent enough, no, but at what point would people be happy? Too many tag teams would take away the limelight from the main eventers, and god (or McMahonism) forbid that should happen! I am enjoying the MNM and Kendrick/London feud right now, and it would be good to see MNM lose-if not just to stop the screaming...

[Guest Dave7g]

Raw has ONE tag team, and they are obviously the tag champions because, well who else could it be. I don't want to think about Snitsdust or whatever it is, they have never appeared on Raw and they are obviously 'together' because theres f-all else for them to do. Smackdown it seems has lots and lots.

[Guest CoTT]

The tag team divisions are a joke. RAW's tag titles are being shared FFS!, I don't even know who the SD! tag champs are (MNM?) and I can't remember the last decent tag team match I watched. RAW could at least throw Conway and Duprée back together as La Résistance because they got ok-ish heat back then compared to barely any reaction currently despite being well capable workers. Putting Haas & Benjamin back together could work as well in a few months because I can't see Charlie Haas staying face.

[Guest Nemesis Enforcer]

As I have said before, WWE have openly said that due to the brand spit they feel there is not enough room on the shows for Tag teams, so what they do is put 2 singles wrestlers together (see Kane/Show for example) so they can have title matches but still work as singles wrestlers and fill out the angles that WWE think up, according to WWE if they did have a few tag teams who mostly work as such there wouldn't be enough people to fill storylines.

 

Not what I think, they have lots of guys they could use but thats what Vince feels apparently

[Guest Jimmy Redman]

The tag team divisions are a joke. RAW's tag titles are being shared FFS!' date=' I don't even know who the SD! tag champs are (MNM?) and I can't remember the last decent tag team match I watched. RAW could at least throw Conway and Duprée back together as La Résistance because they got ok-ish heat back then compared to barely any reaction currently despite being well capable workers. Putting Haas & Benjamin back together could work as well in a few months because I can't see Charlie Haas staying face.[/quote']

 

Introducing the Freebird Rule :)

[DC 536]

A few teams have done the 'sharing the belts' thing before....

 

As JR said above, The Freebirds pioneered it, but Demoilition, The Triple Threat (although they rarely did it) and The New Jersey Triad all had their members beong able do defend the tag belts at any time.

 

It was a good gimmick to have as it would give the fans a surprise, to a degree, when the two who defended the belts came out......and in kayfabe, it gave the champs an advantage as their opponents wouldn't know which combination to vote for.......

[Guest vortigern]

congratulations WWE on MNM,but it really is a two edged sword because for every Midnight Express you need a Rock`n roll Express and for every British Bulldogs you need a Hart Foundation,for every Hardys an Edge/Christian,im sure you understand.

Im very much for putting many of the tag teams on the B shows,why? well it does give management to assess the duo as a tandem in terms of workrate,crowd heat,interest and basically do they gel together.London and Kendrick have built there way up from job boys to quite a good team from there B show appearances.

Now my major problem with WWE is the forming of tag teams only to see them feud with each other,most recently with Carlito/Masters and the high flying duo of `the chokeslam brothers`.Tell me why it has to be so every time? Hawk never fought Animal,Bob Eaton never fought Stan Lane,Rick Morton V Rob Gibson was a flop as was Rick Steiner v Scott,i agree sometimes it can be interesting but Rosey V the Hurricane???

Ive no doubt whatsover that the tag team ranks if handled correctly would not only put bums on seats but add many more viewers,not just Heavyweight tag matches but cruiser tags also and bring back more six man matches,if it works in the Orient and Mexico?