Guest Shoobinator Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 What you are about to read is probably stupid but it is an opinion of mine which may be possible. I think Chris Masters is pushed by WWE to annoy smarks and the internet fans. We all know he has no heat and nobody at the live shows bother to boo him yet he is always pushed. I have never seen someone so unover that hasnt been sent back to OVW to get repackaged or released but Masters has survived. Without realising it, he is one of the most annoying and complained about superstar in WWE. I have been on my share of forums in my time and I have been checking this one out for the last few weeks and the smae is said every single week when people review raw, and that is how much they cant stand Masters etc. Vince may not get the reaction from the live crowd but he gets people like me sitting in my house screaming for somebody to give him his comeuppance. Thats my little theory, I dont know if I agree with it myself but it is another step closer into finding why Chris Masters is still pushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 They're most likely pushing him because someone backstage likes him, he's a big guy, or, well, I don't know. He has hardly no heat except for his Master-lock, and yet they continually push him. I don't really get it. But in saying that, I seriously doubt it's just to annoy the internet fans. There has to be SOMETHING that makes them want to push him. Maybe he threatened to put them all in the Master-lock, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stoned Cold Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 i dont mind him. he looks like he got better in the ring, he was ok in the elimination chamber and his promos make me laugh. He's better than watching crap like Umaga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 i dont mind him. he looks like he got better in the ring' date=' he was ok in the elimination chamber and his promos make me laugh. He's better than watching crap like Umaga.[/quote'] I don't know how anyone can compare Masters and Umaga and come out with Umaga being the crap wrestler to watch. Umaga is refreshing and has something which many people don't have the size that he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stoned Cold Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 give it two weeks and he'll be as exciting as rikishi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 give it two weeks and he'll be as exciting as rikishi. Apart from the fact that Umaga is actually good in the ring, still wish they had kept Rosey as well though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest craignwo4life Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I actually like Chris Masters but I wish they had kept him together with Carlito a bit longer and had them win the belts at WM, now that would have been cool !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slim Jim Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 They are pushing Cena to annoy the smarks, they are pushing Masters in the hope that he'll get over, but his gimmick seems outdated to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimmy Redman Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I really doubt that the WWE would push a wrestler just to annoy internet marks. Rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Twig Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 They are pushing Cena to annoy the smarks Kinda. I think he's getting pushed becasue his merchandise is selling well, and even though/because their core fans hate him Cena is selling tickets. The only thing is he's a face, and not even an anti-face... it's strange. As for Masters... I don't know. I didn't even understand why he was put together with Carlito. He should go into competitive body building, leave the wrestling to people who can entertain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrFill Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Masters is a capable wrestler, his OVW finisher was FAR superior to the Masterlock. I think the real reason he has zero heat is because of the way they failed to get him over - with the Masterlock Challenge - they should have had him come out and kick some ass, not get people to sit in front of him and then put on a full nelson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimmy Redman Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Masters is a capable wrestler, his OVW finisher was FAR superior to the Masterlock. I think the real reason he has zero heat is because of the way they failed to get him over - with the Masterlock Challenge - they should have had him come out and kick some ass, not get people to sit in front of him and then put on a full nelson! Agreed, they took so much time trying to get the Masterlock over, he himself didnt get over. I will admit to liking him a lot more than I did a few months ago. He was totally crap in the beginning. But he's OK now. I actually popped for him on RAW, but that was only because of who he was saving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the HiTman Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) Yeah, whoever thought of putting a finisher above the actual wrestler should be sacked right away. Finishers often end up being more famous than the person who uses it but its usually because it has a history and has built up a legacy...or on the odd occasion, is just awesome (Canadian Destroyer for example). Edited April 20, 2006 by the HiTman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest horsemansmiler Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 i think that although his gimmick is dated somewhat. he has come on leaps and bounds from that first match when he smashed stevies nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrFill Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Considering how rubbish the finisher is - it's a full nelson, a transitional move that should be in the middle of a match, NOT a finisher. It's rather similar to moves like the big boot, it's really NOT a finisher, and never should be. How they could try to put it over as a viable finisher and spend ages on it, then the person who came up with the idea REALLY should definitely be sacked. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slim Jim Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Kinda. I think he's getting pushed becasue his merchandise is selling well' date=' and even though/because their core fans hate him Cena is selling tickets. The only thing is he's a face, and not even an anti-face... it's strange.[/quote'] Surely they would have turned him heel or made him actually loose due to all the backlash he's got, but they continue to push him as an unstoppable face. It's working of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MojoPogo Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Yeah, cos its put poor Chris, who really has worked hard in recent months, even i'll admit that. No, he's not the greatest, but he's no longer the worst either. Let him have a finisher, change the gimmick (maybe let him take himself not so seriously), and then see what happens. I always think newbies (unless they are TOTAL diamonds) take at least a year, just to get used to being in front of the wwe crowds, and as far as i know, Masters hasnt yet been on a year, could be wrong though.....maybe im just fed up with people being released before being given a proper chance.....i dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoTT Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Considering how rubbish the finisher is - it's a full nelson, a transitional move that should be in the middle of a match, NOT a finisher. It's rather similar to moves like the big boot, it's really NOT a finisher, and never should be. How they could try to put it over as a viable finisher and spend ages on it, then the person who came up with the idea REALLY should definitely be sacked. :P I like basic finishers like the full nelson and the big boot. It creates an element of realism because those moves end real fights. Better than garbage like the BME, Canadian Destroyer or C-4. I think Masters' Masterlock looks good on a smaller opponent who he can lift while locking it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MojoPogo Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I like basic finishers like the full nelson and the big boot. It creates an element of realism because those moves end real fights. Better than garbage like the BME' date=' Canadian Destroyer or C-4. I think Masters' Masterlock looks good on a smaller opponent who he can lift while locking it in.[/quote'] Its been a while since i ended a fight with a full nelson! What you did get right was the fact he can put it on anyone, which IS a good thing, the best finishers do have that! but still, have a LITTLE flair (pardon the pun) after all, if its 100% realism you're after, watch UFC or go the pub and start a fight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoTT Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 A guy Masters' size could credibly break someone's neck using a full nelson and bouncers always use the move to end fights because it's virtually inescapable to the average person. Still though, maybe Masters should have a second finisher. I remember that Polish hammer he used in his debut match against Steven Richards which was vicious! He was probably banned from using it because he broke Stevie's nose. It was a good way to make an impact though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Danny Styles Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't mind Chris Masters, ever since the Elimination Chamber at NYR 06 i've liked him True he doesn't have much heat but he isn't terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoTT Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 He's taking way too many steroids though (even though he shouldn't be anymore). He's balding sooner than he should be. That's a real tell-tale sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Russ Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 There's no secret why he's getting pushed. He's got a fantastic look, he's vastly underrated in the ring by some people and has no problems throwing his body around like a guy half his size, he's accepted as a legit threat and his finisher is over. You can say what you like about Masters' entrance heat, it's usually nothing to write home about, but every time I've seen The Masterlock applied the crowd has woken up. Watch HBK doing The Masterlock Challenge from a few months back and try telling me that the move wasn't over. People knew that no one had escaped the hold to date, and were desperate to see Shawn Michaels be the first. His best in-ring work was also with HBK in September of last year, when he did a fantastic job of selling Shawn's weak looking offence. I can see why some people would dislike Chris Masters, seeing as how he's a big guy who's been pushed to a reasonably prominent position on the card. I even accept that WWE will make decisions to annoy the smart fans, as seen with JBL's title reign following Vince getting angry about the internet petition which cost Bradshaw his news job. However, I think Masters has a lot of talent and his push is fully deserved, there are very few heels around in wrestling who have the look of a true star, a finish that's bought by everyone in the audience and the talent to sell like a pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yoyo Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Masters has improved in the ring over the year alot. This time last year we were just looking at a Masterlock challenge every monday but now he has been doing good matches. The feud with Carlito is awesome I think. Both guys are great in the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Crow 370 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 There's no secret why he's getting pushed. He's got a fantastic look' date=' he's vastly underrated in the ring by some people and has no problems throwing his body around like a guy half his size, he's accepted as a legit threat and his finisher is over. You can say what you like about Masters' entrance heat, it's usually nothing to write home about, but every time I've seen The Masterlock applied the crowd has woken up. Watch HBK doing The Masterlock Challenge from a few months back and try telling me that the move wasn't over. People knew that no one had escaped the hold to date, and were desperate to see Shawn Michaels be the first. His best in-ring work was also with HBK in September of last year, when he did a fantastic job of selling Shawn's weak looking offence.[/quote'] It took a guy as already incredibly over as HBK to get a reaction for the move and to get a decent match out of Masters. No one cared before or after. Still gets no reaction, still not over. I think that says more about HBK being an incredible worker than it does about justifying a Masters push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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