Anime Otaku Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Today is Human Rights day. The official Website is below :) http://www.un.org/events/humanrights/2005/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Humans have right everday. its like having a........."thinking day" the day where everyone is allowed to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Paging Dr Lamb, Dr Lamb to TWO General Chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 Umm actually its meant to be like World Aids day on December 1st which is used to bring peoples attention to the spread of Aids. Human Rights Day is meant to bring attention to the fact that in places like China, Iran and America(allegedly) there are Human Rights abuses happening including torture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRM Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It's my human right to sit bed all day watching the football scores coming in whilst eating crisps. I like this day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Hands up all those who studied Human Rights at one of the best Universities in Europe? *Waves two hands in the air* Hi! I know it might seem totally against everything else I come out with but I've always been a major supporter of proper fundamental human rights. No, not the little silly cases about some man being able to hold another man's hand down the street but stopping countries like Turkey, and even today jeez the bloody UK from infringing on serious rights such as the right to a fair trial and the prohibition of torture. Respect for fundamental human rights is something I'm sure everybody here would agree on. I think too many people take them forgranted and when you realise that even the 'good guy' countries like the US don't respect them at times that people should be more active, even if it just means saying 'That's shocking' just a little bit louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 While I disagree that any human right can be seen as 'silly' I do agree that we should be kicking up a fuss alot more about places with bad Human Rights records. While pressure shoul;d be applied ot all countries that oppress Human Rights the likes of China and the USA should be given special attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffmeister Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Human rights activists go too far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 ummm... examples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inno Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 What about the poor lefts? WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE LEFTS, DAMMIT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christof Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 ummm... examples? Well surely its a human right to just have some peace and quiet and get on with life? Yet that becomes increasingly hard when you have people moaning about their rights or that things aren't equal where as in the past people just got on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 The right to peaceful protest is also a Human Right and I'd go as far as to say its a duty to protest even in a small way if you feel a group or government is violating human rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christof Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Yes but things like positive discrimination shouldn't be allowed to happen. You should be employed to do a job if you are the best available, not to fill a quota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 I agree with that, positive discrimination IMO doesn't actually exist it just means you discriminate against the majority rather than minority groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Yeh but the fact is that positive discrimination that is actually unfair is prohibited, and whilst people might moan about it, the quota systems are only allowed when they aren't purely based on someone's race/gender/etc. Plus, Human Rights activists hardly go too far. Try telling that to the people in Arab states who have electrodes plugged to their ears and are tortured. Infact maybe even try telling it to the people who were probably tortured by the US government. If these people aren't going to speak out against Human Rights violations who is? I can think of far more annoying things off the top of my head than Amnesty International and co.. one example runs off the top of my head, ah yes, gay rights activists. And thats not a contradiction since they just moan about everything that isn't poofy. Its a human right to get on with life? Don't remember seeing that in any International convention. Freedom of expression is always weighed against the right to privacy and other conflicting rights anyway. Jeez you'd think by the sounds of it that these Human rights campaigners are causing trouble by pointing out that people are being executed needlessly etc. There's no 'right to ignorance' in the ECHR. Protesters might be generally annoying but ones campaigning for fundamental Human rights hardly should be considered that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christof Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Yes, it is just called positive descrimination. It happens and is increasingly. In fact in twenty years I will probably have to paint myself Green, chop one arm off and becoming a lesbian just to find work. :xyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It happens in other aspects. Foreigners in our town get priority in housing over people who have been born and bred in the town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 Immigration is an issue i cannot really figure out a position on. On the one hand people who come from a place where they are persecuted or in danger through warfare they should be welcomed in as should those that have skills that we are lacking such as NHS dentists and several other trade. At the same time though we should make sure not to let in just anyone who wants to take from the country without giving back anythign to the nations economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Most of them don't even want to attempt to speak the countries language... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagwagon Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 SO whats everyones view on the MINUTE MEN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inno Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) see no offence, Taj - but the first sentence there sums you up for me: "Immigration is an issue i cannot really figure out a position on." I don't have a position on it. I don't need one - it doesn't directly affect me. I live in a small world where I've been screwed over so many time by so many different things that I am now immune to the ways of the world and the many variations of it's attempts to screw people over. If things are gonna happen, they're gonna happen - no amount of well meaning people posting on a wrestling forum is gonna alter that, so I concern myself with things that directly affect me and my family - I don't need to 'figure out a position' on things that have nothing to do with me - if I have to actively think about something for more than 10 seconds to 'figure out a position' then I don't care. Harsh? Probably. Small-minded? No doubt. Does it get me by? Hell yeah. I'm not of the "I don't care, so you can't" position either... I just find it highly amusing that people - mostly Taj, it has to be said - have all these high falutin' ideals and opinions on everything, no matter how minute or meaningless it may be in the grand scheme of things. "Oh no - the crocodiles in the rivers aren't getting enough vitamin Z - shouldn't we do something about it?" would be met by a post from SOMEONE with a well thought out opinion and thoughts and solutions... how do people have TIME to think about this stuff??? Don't take this the wrong way, it's not a pop at peeps... I dunno... I just dunno how peeps can worry about this kind of stuff on an everyday basis. Maybe I'm just too dumb to grasp it? Edited December 10, 2005 by Inno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Usually I'd agree with ya Inno but I think the want for better International Human Rights protection, and Immigration are both things that its pretty wrong to be ignorant about. As for the Immigration issue, I stand by what I said the last time this debate came up but the person I most enjoy hearing share his views on the matter is good old Jack :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inno Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I'm not ignorant, I just don't care ;) But meh - like I say - I'm just too dumb to grasp the need to care about this stuff, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red05 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I don't Human Rights Day gets the publicity it deserves. I didn't even know it existed to be honest. I doubt that it actually has an effect on wether this abuse of the rights carries on or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) I only knew it was today because my Filipina friend Maia is a HR consultant and mentioned it in her blog today. As for what I said earlier about immigration what I really meant was that I can see both sides to some extent for both allowing as many people in as we can that either need help or can help us by bringing skills into the country we don't have enough of. On the other hand I realise that there are some who are just coming here because we have a good way of life here compared to some places and won't contribte anythign to the country. Though I am not in favour of total intergration to the point that they lose the customs and language of their own countries, though they should learn English too. Edited December 10, 2005 by Anime Otaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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