wisdom27 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I've been guessing for years how wrestling actually works. Is it the case that they try and get the most popular wrestler to be WWE champion? How do they establish this mainly- do they polll the fans? Fan reaction on tour? Merchandise sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 (edited) basically the WWE/WCW/ECW/NWA champion will be the most over guy and the person who the crowd believe is worthy of being a champion, the Champion doesnt need to be a good wrestler (John Cena foe example) but Cena is incredibily over with the crowd. EDIT: i parcially take that back, Arquette & Russo were FAR from over :lol Edited November 22, 2005 by Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFill Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 It's more like whoever the bookers decide will be Champ will be. If the wrestler isn't over, then they'll be forced down our throats. Ignoring the WWE and World titles for a minute, the IC & US title used to be an up and comer, and for a while it was "here's a new guy who we want the fans to like/hate, so let's give him the belt" (see Carlito). With the World/WWE titles, it depends on who Vince decides should have the title. Take Orton for example, they tried the slow burn with him to get the fans to hate him, then have him turn on Evolution, but as a Face he was horrible - Randy is a good natural Heel, but a disgusting Face. His reign lasted one whole month because the fans didn't really care about him being a Face, they loved the arrogant Randy. Now, if we look before WM where DAVE~! took the strap from HHH, the reason HHH held the belt is most probably because he's Vince's son in law - I'm not saying it's definitely true, but it's most likely the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 What I think is more or less what Mr P said but I do also think they have other factors. They try and give younger guys breaks as champions. For example Orton was never over until he held the IC title for a long time and had a awesome heel run. They try to create the next Rock, Austin, HHH level star with all that they do and for that the buisness suffers and we are in the situation we are in now. After Foley retired, Austin retired, Rock went to Hollywood all they had was Triple H and people wondered why he held the belt for all that time because no one was better or more over. They made mistakes by bringing in time after time a legend back for a final run. Namely Hulk Hogan is the worse of them all, he buried Hassan. Although he made Lesnar. I know you will say HBK and Kurt Angle but look at the facts HBK is one of the best wrestlers but who knows when his back will crash out and if he would be able to drop in another fantastic match like he did to Austin if he was injured like he was before. Kurt Angle does deserve to hold the title but again neck problems have probably left him in the dark because they don't want to risk him again like at mania 19. Kurt and HBK could not have filled HHH for those reasons. They do sort of poll the fans by the polls on WWE.com who they want to win but they seem to forget that everyone will vote for the face unless they have favourites or are so called Smarks Also if a over guy was always given the belt why has RVD not been world or WWE champion. Same for Shelton Benjamin And fan reaction is a good judge. Bottom line if the fans love or hate a wrestler so much then he will be champion no matter of ring skill that's why Cena and Batista are champion at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFill Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Well, enough of who we like - how does wrestling work? That's the question, so how do YOU believe it works? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom27 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 So tell me more about these 'bookers'. They decide what the result should be, right? They have a long term plan for some, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Styles Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 The WWE booking team at the moment makes Snitsky's face look nice.. it's that bad half of them don't know about wrestling and it shows... frankly the US and IC titles are a joke.. back in 2000-01 it was a solid midcard title and was also used to get people who would become big for the future over.. but usually these people hadbeen around for a year or so.. WWE seems to think that the only way to get a certain person over is to jam any belt on him on his first night (Carlito TWICE!).. WWe doesn't build up talent like they used too.. they now have to resort to jamming the superstar THEY want over down our throats... and Mr Fill is right... HHH didn't need the title before WM21.. he only got it because he sleeps with the enemy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFill Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 So tell me more about these 'bookers'. They decide what the result should be' date=' right?[/quote'] The bookers/writers make up the storylines, say what's going to happen for the promos, skits and matches. They decide who wins and how. Think of them as movie/soap opera writers, the script is given to the "actors" (the wrestlers) who then do what they're told. They have a long term plan for some' date=' I guess.[/quote'] You'd think they would, but it seems like they don't at times, almost with "off the cuff" booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Styles Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Think of them as movie/soap opera writers, but that's exactly what the WWE writing team are.. a bunch of failed hollywood reject writers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom27 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 It's very interesting to learn how it's all put together. Even though you know the storyline is planned this doesn't spoil the excitement for me, it makes it interesting because it's fun to predict what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Enforcer Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 If you want my opinion on how wrestling is run............ by HHH :P Its the writers and bookers who make the decisions but its Vince who has final say over WWE storylines and charecters, if he doesn't like something then it doesn't happen if he does it does On the note of HHH the reason he did so well before Steph is he was best pals with HBK who had lots of influance and got hi mwhat he wanted then Steph happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom27 Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 what's the McMahon kids's roles in the WWE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFill Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 (edited) Stephanie is head booker (Vice President of Creative Writing). Shane is Executive Vice President of WWE Global Media, this means he overseeing international TV distribution, live event bookings, digital media, consumer products and publishing. Edited November 23, 2005 by MrFill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom27 Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 so stephanie decides the outcomes of matches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 not completely, the only person who has a real say into what goes and what doesnt is Vince, but stephanie and the rest of the booking, writing & creative team put ideas forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom27 Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 it's a very interesting business I must admit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 The WWE booking team at the moment makes Snitsky's face look nice.. it's that bad That makes sense... half of them don't know about wrestling and it shows... but that's exactly what the WWE writing team are.. a bunch of failed hollywood reject writers How the frig do you know anything about the bookers? You don't. You know what you've been told now you're saying it like you actually have a clue. Leave it out, it makes you stupid and ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Styles Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 How the frig do you know anything about the bookers? You don't. You know what you've been told now you're saying it like you actually have a clue. . can you explain THAT.. i don't understand waht you're saying.. and of course i'm going by what i've heard.. so are most people on this forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENE Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 can you explain THAT.. i don't understand waht you're saying.. Eh pot calling the kettle black.:P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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