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I'd concur. You can also get jumped for:

 

Being the wrong religion.

Looking like you're the wrong religion

Not knowing which streets it's safe to walk down after an Old Firm game

Not following the team taht your relgiion 'should follow'

 

It's not fun.

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Boca Juniors and River Plate (Argentina) they have to play each other in empy stadiums cos if they don't riots break out at every game they play togehter... hundreds if not thousends have been killed over these 2 tems playing

 

 

 

Yeah I agree. Compared to this match, Celtic Vs Rangers is a walk in the park.

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I'd put Rangers Vs Celtic above River Plate and Boca, despite a ventured interest in both games. I think with the Buenos Aires derby, it's a case of "Grrrr, they play near us and we want to be the best team in that region, let's punch and kick them". It's a hatred based around football.

 

Rangers and Celtic have a bigger rivalry, and that's what this is about. It goes beyond football or geography. It's into religion. The ground is set in every generation when you have Catholic schools and Public schools seperated. It's a dangerous thing to do, when kids grow up on a different side of town, socialising with different people and different sets of fans. Each half of the population is taught that their religion and their football team are the good ones, and the opposite half's views are evil and wrong. This is 5 year old kids we're talking about. Give them generations of time for that anger to swell and a lot of booze in their system and it's a timebomb ready to go off.

 

I'm not denying that Boca Vs River makes more people angry or has bigger riots. But that's because Argentina is a lot bigger than Scotland and even Ireland put together. This thread is asking for the "biggest" soccer rivalry, not "Which derby riot has the most people?". If you're talking about a deep seated hatred that's installed into kids from the second they're able to talk, the fact that they can't enjoy football in a certain way because of religion and one of the biggest modern day examples of Catholic Vs Prodestant hatred in the world today that turns cities into warzones every time they play, I can't look past the Old Firm.

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Barcelona vs Real Madrid

Celtic vs Rangers

Manchester United vs Liverpool

Boca Juniors vs River Plate

Southhampton vs Portsmouth

 

These are all huge matches, with hatred running deep through both sets of fans. For club games I'd give it to Celtic vs Rangers.

But I think if you look to International rivalries, I think you'd find hate running just as deep.

 

Brazil vs Argentina

England vs Scotland

Republic of Ireland vs Northen Ireland

England vs Argentina

England vs Germany

 

You've got some big time rivalries there, that you could make arguments for the biggest rivalry in Football.

(Why not make a poll? :xyx)

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Barcelona vs Real Madrid

Celtic vs Rangers

Manchester United vs Liverpool

Boca Juniors vs River Plate

Southhampton vs Portsmouth

 

These are all huge matches, with hatred running deep through both sets of fans. For club games I'd give it to Celtic vs Rangers.

But I think if you look to International rivalries, I think you'd find hate running just as deep.

 

Brazil vs Argentina

England vs Scotland

Republic of Ireland vs Northen Ireland

England vs Argentina

England vs Germany

 

You've got some big time rivalries there, that you could make arguments for the biggest rivalry in Football.

(Why not make a poll? :xyx)

 

There's no rivalry between RoI and NI.

 

Football's greatest rivalry is Real Madrid vs. Barcelona without a doubt. The deep political and historical roots of that rivalry are unmatched by any other rivalry anywhere in the world.

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There is a rivalry between most if not all London clubs, no two actually like each other. The only one though that i am a part of and really take pleasure in is the rivalry between West Ham and Millwall. The rivalry has been going back years, with the firms anxiously awaiting games to beat the living snot out of each other (shown to a degree in the recent film Green Street). The teams have never got on, and hate each other with a passion. Teddy used to play for Millwall, and rightly got a torrid reception when he started with us, but has earnt the respect of the fans by doing the job he is paid to do.
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There's no rivalry between RoI and NI.

 

Football's greatest rivalry is Real Madrid vs. Barcelona without a doubt. The deep political and historical roots of that rivalry are unmatched by any other rivalry anywhere in the world.

 

I recall Henrik Larsson telling the Barcelona players that it is no Old Firm match, and Giovanni vanBrockhorst (Larsson's best man and vice versa) agreed.

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There is a rivalry between most if not all London clubs' date=' no two actually like each other. The only one though that i am a part of and really take pleasure in is the rivalry between West Ham and Millwall. The rivalry has been going back years, with the firms anxiously awaiting games to beat the living snot out of each other (shown to a degree in the recent film Green Street). The teams have never got on, and hate each other with a passion. Teddy used to play for Millwall, and rightly got a torrid reception when he started with us, but has earnt the respect of the fans by doing the job he is paid to do.[/quote']

Ah how I miss the 1980's. :)

 

I also miss not having you lot in our division, there is no one else that we are garanteed to take at least 4 points from. :D

 

**Scurries off to watch THE 4-1 hammering on DVD.**

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For any doubters out there, get yourself infront of a television set tommorow night and watch the CIS Insurance Cup Quater Final between Celtic and Rangers. I think Russ has more or less got it spot with respect to Religion. You never hear about the Religious backgrounds of Manchester United or Everton. Thats because it does not matter to the supporters of either of those teams, but in Glasgow it matters.

 

As for England i'm going to put my case forward for the East Lancashire rivalry btween Burnley and Blackburn. Again this rivalry is not altogether football based , the rivalry between the 2 towns goes way back to the days of the English civil war. As both towns although only 7 miles apart were on different sides. You then take into account that the birthplace of football was in East Lancashire and both towns have layed claim to creating the game we all love and know today. Much of it also stems from jealousy amazing as it may sound it was actully burnley who were the more dominant of the teams for much of the last century. That was untill Burnley made some drastic changes to it's youth set up which produced talents such as Lee Dixon, Trevor Steven, Willie Irvine, Micky Phelan and Jimmy Mcllroy, this meant that the money that was coming in from outgoing players dried and and Burnleys decline took them to the foot of the forth division meanwhile Blackburn found a messiah in Jack Walker whio ultimatly took them to the peak of English football. It was'nt untill a few years ago that the 2 clubs finally crossed paths again after nearly 20 years apart, and i'm glad to say that the rivalry is as strong as ever. Unfortunatly my experinces of the games have not been all fun.

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It has to be Rangers and Celtic because of the religious stuff as described above.

 

I'd like to add one though, perhaps someone could help me out with the teams names because I'm not sure I've got them right. It's in Brazil, between Sao Paulo and Palmeiras I think. This one almost goes as deep as the Glasgow Derby, it's the rich part of the city against the poor half.

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Real Madrid vs Barcelona is probably the biggest rivalry in soccer, closely followed by The Old Firm, then England v Argentina, and the Boca vs River Plate.

 

In ascending order, briefly.

 

Boca vs River: As already said, it's a geographical rivalry, but also a class rivalry. Boca represent the working class in the shanty towns and River represent the people who put them there. It's just an excuse for crowd violence really.

 

England v Argentina. Argentina still hate England because of the Falkland Islands War. England hate them because they keep beating them unfairly. The English hate cheats and the Argentinians hate people who they claim "live on their land".

 

Old Firm: Geographical and religious rivalry that's been well documented here.

 

Real vs Barca: Comes out on top because of the recent political turmoil. General Franco, a Real Madrid fan and savage dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people, tried to suppress Basque and Catalan culture, as well as trying to prevent Barcelona from playing football. There is deep-seeded hatred there.

 

Special shout out goes to the two warring faschist fans of Roma and Lazio.

 

Cheers!

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