Dave7g Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Haven't seen this posted here yet and it's an interesting story that is developing lately. Last week Batista gave an interview with the Sun that offended a lot of wrestlers. Q. Do you ever watch any NWA:TNA? Do you think competition would be good for the WWE? Are there any TNA wrestlers that have impressed you? Vikram Sangar Batista: I've actually not ever watched any of their shows. I saw a press conference that they did, which I wasn't very impressed with. I've also seen clips of their car wreck matches with AJ Styles doing his stunts. That's not wrestling. Wrestling is storytelling. But at the same time, I have friends in TNA and I wish them the best. Those type of matches definitely have their place, it's just not my thing. I also welcome the competition, which I think can only be good for the wrestling business. Then Samoa Joe on his live journal had this to say : Dave Batista... Ehh its not even worth it, I hope your opinion of others made you feel better about yourself. Meltzer also resonded to Batistas comments in the Observer Newsletter and apparently ripped Batista to shreds, I can't find what he said but when I do I'll stick it in here. It's amazing how the WWE's World Heavyweight Champion has really no idea about the wrestling business at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHIZZLE Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 How has no idea about the wrestling business just because he doesn't watch TNA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I don't blame Batista. During the Monday Night Wars, you didn't have Austin going around talking up WCW. Batista is employed by WWE, and he's obviously got a bit of a connection with the fans considering he's the champion. Why would he put his own livlihood at stake by complimenting the opposition? I don't agree with what he said, but I certainly don't begrudge him for saying it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave7g Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 I mean that he said "I've never seen any of their shows". Either that is a complete lie or he's just phoning in his matches and doesn't really care about the business that he's in. He then went on to call AJ a stuntman which is absolutley ridiculous, AJ is a gazzillion times more talented than him. And he doesn't even know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telf Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I think Batista knows what he likes, and he sticks to it We all have our variations of wrestling that we like, whether it Puero, Lucha or just bog standard mat wrestling. Batista wants wrestling to be about storytelling, as it was years ago - which is fair enough Although saying that, there's been a fair few of Big Dave's stories that have absolutely sucked Joe is a fantastic talent and fully deserves to be rated as highly as he is on his in ring work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Apart from very few of TNA's roster (Well the X Division anyway), Batista is spot on. There is a lot of cruiserweights, who all they know about wrestling, is how to flip about. Guys like Daniels are excellent workers because they arn't in these 'car crash' matches, because they know more than cheap pops, from doing insane moves. I suppose Styles is an exception as he does combine them both, which makes his so good. Even though i hate Joe, he is a good worker in that sense. maybe if he mixed what he does up a little, I would like him more :P He's spot on although hpocritcal. I mean, who is Batista to talk about bad workers? He's been carried to two average/good matches in his career, and one blinder, in Hell In A Cell. Apart from that, he is one awful worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave7g Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 Apart from very few of TNA's roster (Well the X Division anyway), Batista is spot on. There is a lot of cruiserweights, who all they know about wrestling, is how to flip about. Guys like Daniels are excellent workers because they arn't in these 'car crash' matches, because they know more than cheap pops, from doing insane moves. I suppose Styles is an exception as he does combine them both, which makes his so good. Even though i hate Joe, he is a good worker in that sense. maybe if he mixed what he does up a little, I would like him more :P He's spot on although hpocritcal. I mean, who is Batista to talk about bad workers? He's been carried to two average/good matches in his career, and one blinder, in Hell In A Cell. Apart from that, he is one awful worker. For the first time in 3 months Jack, I agree! Batista should not be putting down TNA if he does not watch it, it's unprofessional. Plus Batista is an awful worker and has had some of the worst matches of 2005. He will never get to AJ Styles level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telf Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I suseptable to all types of wrestling, as long as it entertains me. Sounds so obvious, but it's that simple Batista can, on the odd occassion, entertain. The only time when it's lasted was during the feud with HHH. To me, if that had happened with anyone else, after the Wrestlemania match it would have become tiresome Styles, on the other hand, constantly entertains me. The way i see it is that it all comes down to how good they are at what they are trying to achieve. AJ's is the typical "holy s***"'s, and Batista's is really just to get cheers. Difference being, in my opinion, Styles suceeds every time, Big Dave succeeds sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyndorf Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Batista never actually said he was a good wrestler/storyteller. He said he thinks Styles puts on 'car crash' matches. And in his opinion AJ's style isn't what he'd class as good wrestling. I personally think Styles is as dull as dish water. Is Samoa Joe gonna come punk me out now? As for Meltzer: Big deal. I'd rather view a BeltMark or Jack post than read anything by Meltzer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 What Russ said. I agree that Batista isn't gonna know alot about wrestling to make those kind of comments but why in the hell would he put over a potential rival company?! To be honest I'm not really a huge fan of AJ, IMO he ruins his good moments by more frequent other crap he does in the ring. Christopher Daniels on the other hand is more consistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 (edited) Big deal. I'd rather view a BeltMark or Jack post than read anything by Meltzer. who is this Meltzer fellow, on the Crash Holly shoot interview he said Dave Meltzer couldnt put a wrestling show together to save his life, or something along the lines of that. Edited October 28, 2005 by Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestiger99 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Dave Meltz is one of the most reliable online wrestling journalists today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Dave Meltz is one of the most reliable online wrestling journalists today. judging by what i've heard i wouldnt believe that :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFill Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 judging by what i've heard i wouldnt believe that :lol Do you judge everything by what you've heard? So if I told you that Meltz was the biggest authority on wrestling, would you believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Apart from very few of TNA's roster (Well the X Division anyway)' date=' Batista is spot on. There is a lot of cruiserweights, who all they know about wrestling, is how to flip about. Guys like Daniels are excellent workers because they arn't in these 'car crash' matches, because they know more than cheap pops, from doing insane moves. I suppose Styles is an exception as he does combine them both, which makes his so good. Even though i hate Joe, he is a good worker in that sense. maybe if he mixed what he does up a little, I would like him more :P[/quote'] Whoa whoa whoa... an insane spot is nothing close to cheap. It gets the pop it does becasue the wrestler puts his body needlessly into harm's way for the sake of entertainment. I'm not disagreeing with anything else you said, but please, don't refer to huge bumps as an attempt at a cheap pop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Do you judge everything by what you've heard? So if I told you that Meltz was the biggest authority on wrestling, would you believe that? if i heard it quite a few times from different people. how can i read stuff by him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFill Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 if i heard it quite a few times from different people. how can i read stuff by him anyway. Metlz writes for Wrestling Observer: http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/ So, can several people tell Mr P that he's knowledgable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestiger99 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I already tried. He doesn't listen very well. If you don't belive me, read his column and see how much turns out to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave7g Posted October 29, 2005 Author Share Posted October 29, 2005 who is this Meltzer fellow' date=' on the Crash Holly shoot interview he said Dave Meltzer couldnt put a wrestling show together to save his life, or something along the lines of that.[/quote'] Who is Dave Meltzer? If you don't know who he is then I doubt you should expect anyone to take you seriously here anymore, I really mean that.:? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Da Meltz is stupidly accurate with what he says is going to happen. I would say he has a 99% accuracy rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyndorf Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Who is Dave Meltzer? If you don't know who he is then I doubt you should expect anyone to take you seriously here anymore' date=' I really mean that.:?[/quote'] What rubbish. It's true Meltzer gets alot of inside scoops, and alot of the time he's correct. Meltzer pretty much needs to wrap spoiler tags around his name, if Perfect really wants to enjoy wrestling, then it's a good thing that he doesn't know who Meltzer is. Apart from his inside scoops, which aren't his work, he's told it by the bookers, road agents and the wrestlers, what does he offer? I don't think his opinion is any more or any less valid than Perfect's. I'd rather read negative comments about wrestling on TWO than on the WO, at least you know people on here DO actually like wrestling, unlike Meltzer it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Meltz does collate the information and has to sift through what people tell him, you think every time a road agent ect tells him something its true? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyndorf Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Meltz does collate the information and has to sift through what people tell him' date=' you think every time a road agent ect tells him something its true? ;)[/quote'] Fair enough. But surely Meltzer has a set of consistent insiders who he uses time and time again and whom he trusts. So if Wrestler A tells him something, having been recieving news from him for a number of years, he'd just trust him, right? Of course, if Joe Bloggs tells him something, that is not totally out of the question, he'll check it out, just to be on the safe side. Man, Meltzer needs to get a real job :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Fair enough. But surely Meltzer has a set of consistent insiders who he uses time and time again and whom he trusts. So if Wrestler A tells him something' date=' having been recieving news from him for a number of years, he'd just trust him, right?[/quote'] Who knows, given what he does it would be a good way to work the IWC if you know who his contacts are....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Who is Dave Meltzer? If you don't know who he is then I doubt you should expect anyone to take you seriously here anymore' date=' I really mean that.:?[/quote'] my mum doesnt know Dave Meltzer, does it mean no one takes her seriously, same with......David Seaman, My old English Teacher, George Bush, does that mean no one takes them seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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