Frank N Steiner Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Zzzzzzzzz... Anyone else feel sorry for poor Stevie Richards having to job to this untalented lump of 5hite? Full nelson finisher? WTF???!!? :help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 The full nelson finisher could work... but really the WWE is going the wrong way about pushing this guy. The problem is, for every success they have like Snitsky they have a complete failure like Masters. Really... this guy is going nowhere, you heard the crowd during that match. They've just lumped him in after possibly the worst vignettes I've seen used to introduce a guy for a looooooooooooong time and given the fans no reason to hate him. Back to OVW my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beltster Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I thought hias vignettes were pretty cool, lol. I will give the guy a chance, I think he has a good look etc...we'll see how it goes. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank N Steiner Posted February 25, 2005 Author Share Posted February 25, 2005 Oh dear Beltmark. I was just starting to respect your posts after you posted the thread about Bret on Hogan, then you say that Montreal was a work and you like the look of Chris Masters. :eek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Masters actually managed to fracture Stevie's cheekbone and damage his nose during their 2 minute match. I don't see how he should be allowed in a ring if he's going to injure people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank N Steiner Posted February 25, 2005 Author Share Posted February 25, 2005 No talent, no excitement and he injures other (far better) wrestlers? Is he related to Sparky Plugg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimmy Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I saw Masters wrestle in OVW and he can pull off some great stuff the Masterpiece gimmick has gone too far especialy with the dodgy music the full nelson works great would be better if it was more variated maybe into a camel clutch sort of thing. I think he could go far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beltster Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Oh dear Beltmark. I was just starting to respect your posts after you posted the thread about Bret on Hogan, then you say that Montreal was a work and you like the look of Chris Masters. :eek I didnt say I liked the look of him, I said he has a good look. As in, he looks the part. I am not going to judge a guy on a 2 minute match where he is forced to use the crappy full nelson as a finish and is working with Stevie Richards. And yes, Stevie was decent in ECW and WCW, but he has always sucked in the WWF/WWE, his match with Tyson Tomko was pathetic, and it wasnt all Tomko's fault. As for the Monstreal thing, its an opinion, yours is different than mine, doesnt mean you are right, or I'm right. You prove to me it was a shoot and I'll admit I'm worng...but, you cant and never will be able to. Nobody can prove either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortigern Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 a long time ago i saw a young talented technical wrestler,thinly muscular but not bulky ,a great talent i thought but this guy who`s name was Terra Ryzing had zero charisma and just wasn`t over-his name today?......Triple-H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyndorf Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Perhaps I should give him a chance, after all I've only seen one match..... .........On second thoughts....... ......Chris Masters :lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beltster Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Masters actually managed to fracture Stevie's cheekbone and damage his nose during their 2 minute match. I don't see how he should be allowed in a ring if he's going to injure people. Same could be said about RVD. Like Tazz says: "This aint ballet!" Accidents happen, and I'm sure he was nervous making his debut on live RAW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 The last (and ONLY) person RVD injured in the WWE was Triple H in the first Elim Chamber, and that was due to the chamber roof not allowing him to get the height he needed. I'm not saying Masters intentionally did it, but if he's so green he injures people, why has he been called up so early? Richards, who could be a perfectly able wrestler if given more than three minutes, suffered exactly the same when Heidenreich debuted, as Heidenreich managed to damage Stevie's back with his finishing move. Twice in successive weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jung Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Just look at him. Thats why he's been called up early. I'll give this gimmick 3 months, before it changes. It didn't work for Lex Luger nor Mark Jindrak, and it won't work for this guy. You'd think someone in WWE would say "shouldn't we bring people up who can wrestle?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jung Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Oh and btw chris, RVD has also injured Angle, Test, Jericho, Matt Hardy and lots of others in his time there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beltster Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Oh and btw chris' date=' RVD has also injured Angle, Test, Jericho, Matt Hardy and lots of others in his time there.[/quote'] You beat me to it. Chris, RVD has injured a ton of people during his WWF/WWE run, not just HHH. Why do you think he was told he wasnt allowed to use the Van Daminator and Van Terminator anymore, along with alot of his other TM moves?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Jeez, calm down. So I made a slight mistake :P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 thing is by all accounts it's only WWF/E guys that have problems taking his moves when he's been up against ECW guys who he has worked with for ages they have been fine... that or the WWF/E guys are crybabies over guys being a bit stiffer than they are used to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beltster Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 thing is by all accounts it's only WWF/E guys that have problems taking his moves when he's been up against ECW guys who he has worked with for ages they have been fine... that or the WWF/E guys are crybabies over guys being a bit stiffer than they are used to I think its a case of the WWF guys jealousy over how popular and over RVD was getting, so using any and all excuses to make sure he is watered down and therefor keeping their 'spot' safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anime Otaku Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 yeah RVD was a face during the invasion angle i thik, despite being an alliance member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWE Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 And Chris Masters was telling "The Nature Boy" that he should watch his match and learn something?, he's a bit like one of those TNA "boobs"... he needs to go back to OVW... I was really expecting something from him for his promos, but the match was just like... *quietness* "Bleh.., oh, the match is over..." and it's rare to find me saying things like that about WWE stuff. :eek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beltster Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 And Chris Masters was telling "The Nature Boy" that he should watch his match and learn something?' date=' he's a bit like one of those TNA "boobs"... he needs to go back to OVW... I was really expecting something from him for his promos, but the match was just like... *quietness* "Bleh.., oh, the match is over..." and it's rare to find me saying things like that about WWE stuff. :eek[/quote'] lol, trust me, there is alot worse in WWE than Chris Masters...the entire SD! show, for example. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWE Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Oi, no way!!! lol no they aren't!! I love all the WWE as much as everything in the, well, WWE!! :D but Chris Masters... well, he is good for a Randy Orton lookalike (although he has scrunched up feet/legs LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 His entance was great and he totally killed steven richards.i heard steven has a broken cheekbone.thats a good gimmick hopefully he keeps doin great work. write back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWE Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Yeah, well remember when Victoria had that really long dancing entrance? well it was shortened a week after. And oh yeah, I didn't think... that you like Randy Orton so that's why you probably like it lol ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_orton_mark Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 As I have saidI think his entrance is amazing and, with a bit of wokr, he has plenty of charisma. But The only time the Full-Nelson looked painful was when he brought Stevie Night heat to his knees to lock it in. That looked good. I won't dismiss him, but not the best debut ever, Gail Kim did better, not saying much like. I liked him, train a bit more and learn from the vets and he'll be fine. PS. What happened to Jindrak's reflection of perfection gimmick with Teddy Long>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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