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Decision Time!

Feb. 21, 2005

 

Batista's road to WrestleMania 21 will come to a fork on Monday Night RAW when he finally decides which championship he will compete for. Will it be RAW's World Heavyweight Championship, or will Batista jump to SmackDown! and take on the WWE Champion at WrestleMania.

 

Before RAW, Batista will be at the SmackDown! No Way Out pay-per-view. What impact will the events that occur have on his ultimate decision? Also, we learned on SmackDown! that General Manager Theodore Long will crash RAW on Monday to try to sign Evolution’s animal to his roster. How will RAW GM Eric Bischoff respond to his counterpart's overtures?

 

Also on RAW, the long-awaited unveiling of "The Masterpiece" Chris Masters will happen. Will Masters prove his greatness? Is he as good as his recent vignettes on RAW have suggested?

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Excellent Raw.

 

Decent womens match to open the show, Trish managed to defeat the full active womens roster in one match. Speaking of Trish, what a shiner of an eye! :eek

 

Great tag match involving HBK, Orton, Edge and Christian, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Edge & Christian still have great chemistry together as a tag team with the highlight being them trying the con-chair-to spot. Imagine Edge and Christian vs The Rock N Sock Connection at Mania, how awesome would that be?

 

The Angle-HBK annoucment happened a little different than I had initially expected, glad it's finally got a mention on T.V though. I can see Angle turning up next week on Raw during the street fight.

 

Hassan and Daivari were as great as always on the mic. Hopefully Hassan keeps up his undefeated streak next week, a win for Benoit would be stupid.

 

Wasnt too impressed with Chris Masters, but its still to early to judge the guy fairly even if he has the worst finishing move i think ive ever seen. What was the point having him face Steven Richards though? We havent seem him on Raw in months so this got little or no heat for Masters, because nobody cared if he beat up Steven Richards. Having him face someone like Hurricane would have at least got him some heat. Ah, well It confirms Stevie has taken the prize position as the ultimate jobber (previously held by Funaki and Spike)

 

The contract signing was excellent. It crossed my mind for a minute that Batista would end up signing both contracts. I loved the thumbs up into a thumbs down from Dave, really cool. Fantasic ending seeing him erupt on HHH and Flair. Total mark out moment for me. Im really into Batista at the moment the build up so far has been great and although I am unsure about his post-Mania career I am going to enjoy the build up to it none the less.

 

One of the better moments on Raw for a long time.

 

Next weeks Raw should be very interesting. Cant wait to see Triple H and Flair's reaction to Batista's Bombshell....Also cant wait for Smackdown to see who the new GM will be. I never liked Teddy as GM for some reason.

 

Things are always great heading into Mania, this year shouldnt be any different :xyx

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RAW report from WrestlingObserver.com>>

 

WWE Raw Report

 

By: Todd Martin

Email: MartinT2007@lawnet.ucla.edu

 

Date: 02/21/05 from State College, PA.

 

The Big News: Batista is wrestling HHH at WrestleMania, and wow did they do

a bad job getting there.

 

Title Changes/Turns: None.

 

Match Results: Trish Stratus b Molly Holly and Victoria; Chris Jericho b

Simon Dean; Kane b Tyson Tomko; Shawn Michaels & Randy Orton b Edge &

Christian; Chris Masters b Steven Richards; Gene Snitsky b Shelton

Benjamin-DQ.

 

Show Analysis:

 

Trish Stratus, sporting a black eye, beat Victoria and Molly in a triple

threat match. Victoria hit the jigglesault on Molly for a near fall. She

went for it on Trish but Trish rolled her up for a near fall. Molly hit a

Northern Lights suplex on Victoria for a near fall. The heels used a double

suplex on Victoria, but then turned on each other. Victoria took over on

both with clotheslines. Trish went for the chick kick but Victoria caught

her and hit a hard head butt. Molly went for the Molly-Go-Round on Victoria,

but Victoria moved out of the way and hit the Widow’s Peak. She had Molly

pinned, but Trish pulled her out of the ring and scored the pin herself.

This was a very good opener. Ross made the point that Trish may have won the

match, but Christy gets to pose in Playboy so Trish is jealous. Wonderful

view of gender by good ol’ J.R., who apparently thinks women take greater

pride in posing nude for men than excelling in athletics.

 

Backstage, HHH and Ric Flair were happy about how over Batista was at No Way

Out. They concluded Batista will have to jump to Smackdown, but Flair noted

he was having trouble reaching Batista. They aired the new Pulp Fiction

vignette, which doesn’t work as well as the others because Pulp Fiction was

cool and self-aware. Satire obviously isn’t going to work as well on it as

it will on a straight film that takes itself more seriously. Trish ridiculed

the Irritating Redhead and Ms. 15th Minute of Fame. The Super Bowl woman did

an epic, all-time worst acting job when Trish smacked her. Seriously, it was

so bad I would say go out of your way to see this. Even by wrestling

standards, this woman is the bottom of the barrel acting wise. She couldn’t

get the role of a tree in a second grade play. Anyway, the redhead came to

her aid by sending Trish into the wall. I can’t believe they are building

this match. It will be off the charts bad, and it totally undermines the

credibility of the real women wrestlers.

 

Elsewhere, Randy Orton was chatting with Shawn Michaels. Michaels said Orton

shouldn’t wait for opportunities, but he should take an opportunity for

WrestleMania like Michaels once did. This seems to suggest a possible Orton

turn, and maybe it was just my imagination, but Orton seemed more smug than

usual. Chris Jericho beat Simon Dean with the Walls. Dean made fun of Joe Pa

before the match, and I was surprised this actually got heat in 2005.

Backstage, Michaels told Theodore Long he wants to wrestle Kurt Angle at

WrestleMania, and that he is going to take his opportunity. Asking for a

match doesn’t exactly constitute taking an opportunity in my book, and this

was a lame, anti-climactic setup for the match. Michaels badly needs a

character overhaul.

 

Kane beat Tyson Tomko with the choke slam. Before the match Tomko said he

should be the focus of the promotion, not Batista. Chris Masters arrived in

a limousine, and told Flair to watch his match so he can learn a thing or

two. Muhammad Hassan came out. Lawler pointed out a sign that said “Hassan

stole my tablecloth” and laughed. Hassan is supposed to be a wrestling heel,

and he’s much more sympathetic to me than the bigoted writers and announcers

of WWE. Hassan said that on President’s Day, all people should be treated

equally, but he isn’t. He said his undefeated record can’t be denied and

that he deserved the title shot against HHH were Batista to jump. Benoit

came out and challenged Hassan, but Hassan said not tonight. Benoit went

after Hassan, but ended up getting double teamed culminating in a camel

clutch.

 

Shawn Michaels and Randy Orton beat Christian and Edge. Ross said Christian

and Edge are on the same page again to explain Edge brutally attacking

Christian. Then he claimed this was a one time reunion, so he was

acknowledging one show while forgetting another. Michaels dominated much of

the early match on both Edge and Christian. Edge pulled down the ropes as

Michaels was bouncing off, and hit a clothesline to the floor on Michaels.

The heels worked over Michaels for a while, but he came back with a swinging

neck breaker and made the tag. Orton responded with a power slam, repeated

punches, and a crossbody off the top on Edge for a near fall.

 

Christian and Edge turned the tide with a double team neck breaker, and took

back over on Orton. Orton fought back with a double DDT and made the hot tag

to Michaels. The crowd was dead at this point for whatever reason as

Michaels used inverted atomic drops and an Angle slam on Christian.

Christian went for the unprettier on Orton, but Orton got out. Orton went

for the RKO on Edge but was sent into the referee. Edge hit the spear on

Orton. Michaels came in with a flying forearm on Edge, and body slam and

elbow off the top on Christian. Michaels went for sweet chin music on

Christian but Edge pulled him out and Christian and Edge crotched him hard

on the post. They then went for the concerto, but Michaels ducked out and

hit sweet chin music on Christian for the pin. This was an excellent match.

 

Edge jumped Michaels backstage, in another example of the new WWE trend of

diverting fan interest in major matches. Chris Masters beat Steven Richards.

The fans stood for Masters, who posed before the match. It was a total

remake of Narcissist. The bad news is that angle flopped. The good news is

few fans will remember that, and thus he is less likely to come across as a

cheap imitation. It’s definitely not a good sign when you’re perceived as a

second rate Lex Luger. Masters used a full nelson as his finisher.

Seriously. Gene Snitsky beat Shelton Benjamin via disqualification in a

continuation of this wonderful feud. Snitsky went for the chair again but

Benjamin cut him off with a baseball slide. Benjamin decided to clock

Snitsky with the chair as revenge for last week.

 

Ric Flair and HHH were talking backstage when all of the sudden for no

reason HHH revealed that he set up the limousine gimmick last week because

sometimes Dave isn’t smart enough to know what is right for him. Flair was

shocked, but then decided it was brilliant and celebrated. HHH said it would

be all for nothing if the idiot doesn’t go to Smackdown. The magic camera

then zoomed back to Batista listening outside the door. This was illogical

on so many levels, and such a ham fisted way of setting up the angle. It’s

just an abysmal writing job, with a hack deus ex machina setup. There are a

million different ways that Batista could have found out that wouldn’t have

felt so utterly and completely contrived.

 

The show concluded with the contract signing. This was reminiscent of those

20 minute promos they used to do every week to start Raw. Batista came out

with Evolution, and Bischoff and Long both went on and on with nothing to

say about why he should choose their side. The crowd booed Smackdown.

Batista was about to decide when HHH told Batista he should go to Smackdown

so they could rule the wrestling world together. Batista threw down the Raw

contract, and HHH and Flair gave him the thumbs up. He teased thumbs up but

then turned to thumbs down. HHH mouthed a naughty word and Batista laid out

HHH and Flair. He gave HHH a power bomb through the table and signed the

contract to face HHH.

 

Final Thoughts:

 

It wasn’t like they completely blew this angle, but this was very poor

execution. Batista finally laying out HHH was a guaranteed pop, but this

didn’t have the dramatic arc of a good story. It became completely obvious

at the very end, and thus there was no surprise, but it didn’t feel like a

long time coming either. It was the worst of both worlds. Hopefully the

average fan came out of this feeling a lot more excited about Batista vs.

HHH than I did, because they have screwed up the rest of the card even

worse. There is a dearth of matches with any interest, as Angle vs. Michaels

and JBL vs. Cena haven’t built up very well at all. The rest of the card is

pretty much a question mark, and it could ultimately end up like

WrestleMania XVIII, with one dead match after another in the middle of the

card. They should be really clicking right now leading into WrestleMania,

but much of this show felt completely pointless, and the main angle was

poorly executed. All is not well in WWE.

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I thought Raw was ok. High points like Hassan and Daivari building up a feud with Benoit, the contract signing and the HBK/RKO vs E&C tag match mixed in with low points like the possibility of a Hemme vs Stratus title match ( :? ) , Kane vs Tomko (my god, I hope they're not considering pushing that useless lump) and Benjamin vs Snitsky ( although the chair shot was kinda cool ). As Martin said, looking forward to SD to see the fall-out of the contract signing for poor Teddy.
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Ross made the point that Trish may have won the

match, but Christy gets to pose in Playboy so Trish is jealous. Wonderful

view of gender by good ol’ J.R., who apparently thinks women take greater

pride in posing nude for men than excelling in athletics.

Trish ridiculed

the Irritating Redhead and Ms. 15th Minute of Fame. The Super Bowl woman did

an epic, all-time worst acting job when Trish smacked her. Seriously, it was

so bad I would say go out of your way to see this. Even by wrestling

standards, this woman is the bottom of the barrel acting wise. She couldn’t

get the role of a tree in a second grade play. Anyway, the redhead came to

her aid by sending Trish into the wall. I can’t believe they are building

this match. It will be off the charts bad, and it totally undermines the

credibility of the real women wrestlers.

i love this guy! thats exactly why the WWE womens division is is so under rated

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The whole show sucked! The only high points of the whole show was Shelton Benjamin taking a chair to Gene Snitsky's head and Big Dave powerbombing HHH through the table with authority at the end of Raw.

 

Big Dave indeed looked good with the belt on his shoulder. Hopefully at Wrestlemania the WWE does the right thing and put the belt where it belongs. Around the waist of Evolution's monster.Batista will be your next champ.

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Very poor Raw this week, still better than No Way Out by miles. Really bad HHH/Flair/Batista locker room crap, theres no way I can try to enjoy these backstage segments as they are so phoney and stupid, it never used to be this way. Ruined the whole show for me. Another thing thats annoying is Bischoff was on the phone to Teddy last week saying that TEDDY had sent JBL to Raw, then HHH admits that he rented the Limo?? Makes absolutely no sense WHATSOEVER!! Come on WWE!! The tag match was great though, and next weeks street fight will be nice. Chris Masters is another big talentless fool to join Snitsky and Heidenreich. Kane/Tomko, yeah thats gonna keep the ratings up.
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I thought Raw was quite goos this week. I enjoyed the tag match, i was expecting a bit more for the Angle/hbk match at mania. I was disappointed that we didn't find out who was driving the limo though. Quite impressed with the Batista Contract Signing, the thumbs down was excellent. I'm looking forward to seeing the fall out next week and the Street Fight.
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I ignored all the smarkyness about Batista obviously joining RAW, I ignored the opportunities to look at spoilers and I ENJOYED THE SHOW.

 

Sure, the filler matches were all completely pointless and Chris Masters looks set for the Mordecai return trip to OVW, but during the contract signing I actually allowed myself to go with it, and the thumbs down was a pure mark-out moment.

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Good RAW showing. The contract signing was played out good, like everyone has said. It was great to see the tag match Edge & Christian have great chemistry together- rightfully so! They are brothers, not! Nice to see Sheldon take down Snitsky, does this mean Sheldon could whip Kanes ass cause Snitsky was a bigger problem for him?! With Mania coming up the next few weeks should be entertaining.
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The Franchise Batista isn't the Evolution Animal anymore :P

 

I had a match on SvR/SmackDown! vs. RAW last night and it was Randy Orton and Batista vs. Ric Flair and Triple H on RAW. I wonder if that will really happen? :D

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The Franchise Batista isn't the Evolution Animal anymore :P

 

I had a match on SvR/SmackDown! vs. RAW last night and it was Randy Orton and Batista vs. Ric Flair and Triple H on RAW. I wonder if that will really happen? :D

Probably something like. They will not want to give us Batista vs HHH for free on RAW, but build to it at Mania. But keeping them apart is out of the question as the fued needs to build.

Unless of course HHH keeps on being inactive and just showing up in a suit to talk. He doesn't wrestle anybody these days! When did he last wrestle on RAW anyway? He's taking it easy nowadays - anyone know why?

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Oh, and one more thing:

 

I could forgive JR for getting Edge and Christian mistaken when they both had long hair... but he even managed to do it three or four times on this show.

I've said this before, but start thinking about who should replace JR, peeps - he's losing it at an alarming rate!

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-Friday Night's Raw Brand House show has been changed again and now includes the following matches:

 

Edge vs. Shawn Michaels in a Royal Rumble Rematch.

Batista & Randy Orton vs. Ric Flair and Triple H.

Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit in a submission match.[/Quote]

 

from: backstagewrestling.com

 

LOL I was right!! ^_^ :D :xyx

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Completely irrelevant point for Raw, but to do with JR, in that today I was watching the Rumble and he also thought it was Dupree that was eliminated when it was Haas, and he never corrected himself.

 

I think it could be time for a change of announcers definitely.

 

But anyhow, do people think they blew it with Batista or not? Was it an anti-climax? I can't really say cause I knew what was happening before I watched.

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