Guest Rob McKay! Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Do you think we will have TV and our own stars or will tributes still rain supreme, what do you think will be happening over here in 2 years time? Your predictions please gentleman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_dan Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 up s**t creek if the morons can't stop there petty feuding. And even further up that same creek without a paddle and sinking fast if certain promotions don't stop there internal and external politics, continue using false advertising or if other promotions don't stop running tribute shows to rip off the punters. On the other hand, if wrestlers don't bail out of a booking without telling anyone, and the various promoters start working together, I see no reason why at least a national tour can't be up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Re: up s**t creek Originally posted by Evil_dan if the morons can't stop there petty feuding. Maybe if less posts contained quotes sutch as this then there would be less online arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tomc2488 Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 I think if most of the Promotions have worked together or at least are on terms then in two years British Wrestling could defenitley be on TV. It may not be attracting as many viewers at the WWF at that point in time but as long as they continue to work at it then more will be drawn to it. The talent is defenitley there and some promotions as people already know are grooming new talent for the future. There are alot of good bookers in this country and if backing from people like TalkSPORT continues then British Wrestling will be right up there. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob McKay! Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 There was a news paper article on how the WWF, Glasgow event phonelines got totally jammed with over 150,000 people wanting WWF tickets. In which case when you think about it if the wwf held events at Hampden or Celtic Park with the same demand they could sell out those venue's easily. So does british wrestling copy the wwf to be succesfull? I don't think that would work but what will, kids entertainment? Its commen knollege that the majority of wrestling fans in the UK are under 12 so only a happy medium between WWF and kids entertainment would be sucessfull perhaps. I sure hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Here's what I posted on the UKFF earlier... What's "New British Wrestling" anyway??? The fact that people looked at Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks wasn't the scenes fault, you had a huge amount of more talented workers around as well though...I can't remember all the names, but i'm sure somebody will help me out. Keichi Yamada, Dynamite Kid, Danny Collins, Johnny Saint, Marc Rocco...just a few names of who could be seen in the, supposedly, old school era. Free from our history...are we that ashamed of it? UK wrestling used to be remembered for it's own style, and nowadays you get slaughtered for watching a Puro tape. Well, if watching a Puro tape is sad then surely watching 4 hours of WWF in a week is also. Let's get a stage, let's get pyro, let's get former WWF guys over, let's ... let's take stock, let's put some money into going national, let's get a scene that goes from Aberdeen to Cornwall, let's build our own guys, let's not try to be a hybrid of WWF meets ECW. "We can't afford to go XXXXX" Well, if there's already a roster there, then blah blah blah. "We can't find guys to promote blah blah" There are Promoters from North to South, with Wales and Ireland added next. Picture it, a house show every week...hell, Friday, Saturday and Sunday...utilising promotions as feeders and territories.. The British Wrestling Alliance: FWA, Hammerlock, Allstar, WAW, TWA, UPW, BRAWL, Farrer's group, IWF, Scottish CW, Irish Whip and anybody else you bring in. Don't give me "Hammerlock on other shows???" ... it's a myth! Once a month, the BWA has their major show London, Birmingham, Norwich, Nottingham, Glasgow, Liverpool, Dublin, Preston, Newcastle, Blackpool, Portsmouth. It would take about 12 phone calls, one meeting and an announcement in Powerslam and WOW. Us Promoters would gain, wrestlers would gain and you fans would get to view the best of British every week. Local cable TV is avaible everywhere and, surely, a vibrant North to South scene would interest Channel 5 or another terrestrial channel. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack_Halewood Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Well there's very few good wrestlers in the UK at the moment, but why do they need to be good. Crowds are happy with some spots and since wrestling is only entertainment here, that's all that matters. Only Doug, really, is good, but even he isn't world class or anything near that since his selling at Revival was horrible, truly horrible. Need I highlight the lack of selling any direction in his match with Eddy? And, truthfully, unless a company starts a product that's WRESTLING and not Sports Entertainment (which is only the style of product Vince McMahon created and uses, not all of wrestling) then I will only have a passing interest in UK wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Houlihan Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 All the groups should join together and hold a big event. It could be about 8 hours long :) no seriously I think feds should join together and do a big event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob McKay! Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Hahahahahahah and mid event we can all burn an ephagy (is that the right word?) of UK Undertaker hahahahah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Houlihan Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Hey UK Undertaker for life But Rob you couldn't go because of all the Vomit you be pucking up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob McKay! Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 No I would still go, I puke then I kick ass mawhahahahah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_dan Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Re: Re: up s**t creek Strangly enough Micheal, Kid Krazy or whatever bad gimmick you wan't to use this week (although I have NO room to talk about crappy gimmicks :> ) that wasn't aimed at you. It was aimed at a completely different group of people, namely certain promoters and there management team (and I'm not talking about BXW either). It would be cool if all the decent UK promotions could hold an event together like the big japenese events with all there promotions. But I expect politics would get in the way. I'm frankly amazed at the schoolyard level of politics in the UK wrestling scene. It was embarrassing whileI was still involved with a promotion, where it was kept internal, and it's even more embarrassing reading it fromother PROMOTIONS (notice the plural here) on TWO's forum, the Wrestle Zone UK forum, and the UKFF. The politics is almost as bad as rec.sports.prowrestling and the crap you get in any schoolyard. Thats why I was impreessed by Iceman getting a grib on the petty bickering that certain people in his promotion were busy trying to s**t stir (and no micheal, I don't mean you). And with other promotions who should know better busy laying in with 'but he said that and that and that and that, and then did this and this and this and this). It's a shame that it got so bad he had to make an announcement like that in public. Nobody can be taken seriously when people constantly bitch here, on the UKFF and so on and so on and so on and so on. Farankly it's unprofessional. And they are very few people who aren'tguilty of it (and I include myself as guilty in the last list) Why can't people just stop airing there dirty laundry in public. And I'm not just talking about the BXW/SCW fued here, or the Rob Mckay is unerliable and should be called sickbag taunts, and the promotion XXX uses backyarders, or the he said this, backed out on that and failed to do the other crap. Same goes for the fools who haven't got the guts to step up to the plate and becomea wrestler/promoter slagging off promotions that haven't even started, or they just feel the need to flame because they can't get enough attention from there big sister granny or get a girlfriend, due to the fact they are stuck in front if computer all day downloading porn and talking crap about subjects they know jack all about (damn, my secrets out). Although, if an all UK federation show does get put on, BXW Vs SCW (Scotland) fued would be entertaining, and does seem to have a lot of mileage in it yet. I would pay to see that show. Hell, If I could sort out a way to get trained up here by some professionals I would like to be in it (note to any UK promoter, squash boy for hire, works for peanuts, preferably 2 packets of KP salted peanuts :> ) Yeah I would like to see a UK promotion happen, but I doubt it will be everyone working together. It's more likely to be whichever promtion gets big enough to go national first. And right now the competition between Hammelrock and FWA to be the biggest is being won by FWA. If they could all work together (and thats a BIG if) there is certainly enough UK talent to make it work, and it would be good enough for TV. Revival proved that. I want to see it work. I just doubt it will at the moment. :devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob McKay! Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Rob Mckay is unreliable For the record I am a reliable worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_dan Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 I believe that was the point I was trying to make. Sorry if I wasn't entirely clear about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jazzmaster Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 British wrestling needs TV time. No channel will take it unless it would be an instant hit. British wrestling will never be an instant hit. So no TV time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_dan Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Are you sure? Not even Channel 5 or UK Living? There so desperate they'll even screen sunset beach for gods sake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Houlihan Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Originally posted by Rob McKay! For the record I am a reliable worker. Only thing reliable is that you will puke (Sorry but I think Kenny has started something here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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