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From what Ive heard is that on RAW this past week there was a sign that was on camera many many times saying Total Nonstop Crap. While some thought nothing of it, the general consensous is that this is actually a plant by TNA hitting back at them over the footage they aired which wasnt sueable since the blurred all but the TNA stars out.

 

If it is indeed a WWE plant then its pretty weak.

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

Vince McMahon, you so silly. :lol Now thats not cool

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If it was a plant, then fair enough.. the WWE will only take subtle shots at TNA, I mean most people who would see the sign I would guess wouldn't even know about TNA to be honest...

 

Now if there had been a sketch slagging TNA in some form THEN Vince would be a silly man, falling for TNAs trap. I don't think/I hope he won't do it though.

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Not exactly a big anti-TNA plan is it. It's more than likely either a normal everyday fan who hates TNA, or a small dig at the company. Vince could probably wipe TNA out in days if he wanted to - the fact that TNA isn't even on a level with the WWE (which is a shame, but truth) just shows how much he doesn't care.

 

Vince isn't at war with TNA. In his mind, he's got bigger fish to fry.

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Very true.Vince isnt worried about T.N.A.

 

Not exactly a big anti-TNA plan is it. It's more than likely either a normal everyday fan who hates TNA, or a small dig at the company. Vince could probably wipe TNA out in days if he wanted to - the fact that TNA isn't even on a level with the WWE (which is a shame, but truth) just shows how much he doesn't care.

 

Vince isn't at war with TNA. In his mind, he's got bigger fish to fry.

 

I hope that someday both the WWE and TNA can work together.If ECW was able to do it why cant TNA someday? The fans definately would benefit from it.Smackdown and Raw also would benefit from those kind of crossovers too. Too bad Stephanie McMahon got Paul Heyman canned.At least he was good at writing good stuff for Smackdown.Shes got nerve. :devil

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Yeah, I dont think Vince really cares about TNA. It very well could have just been a fan, and why would they make security take it down? Does it affect them? No, course not, that's like saying Vince wants to take over the LA Lakers, if in LA, someone had a "Sacramento Kings suck, Lakers Rule sign" it means absolutely nothing.

 

To me, it sounds like some bias TNA fans, trying to make something out of nothing. Regardless of what the quality of programming they are putting out, TNA are Hereford United compared to WWE's Arsenal, and there is more chance of WWE falling to TNA's level, than the other way round. And even if they do, chances are TNA might not even be around by then.

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Yeah Vince isn't stupid (no really he's not). If he started any major sort of anti TNA campaign all he would do would be to attract interest and attention to TNA. If he started shouting about how bad they were people would wanna see for themselevs what he was talking about.

 

Much like all those skits they did when WCW had Hogan and Savage and stuff, all it did was made people go, "oh, hang on, WCW has Hogan and Savage? Damn, lets go check it out".

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And that's also taking into account WCW was beating WWF at the time. TNA at the moment, is a country mile behind WWE and nowhere near them, so yeah it's no big plan. At this rate, WWE don't have to plan for anything with TNA, the gap's so big, it would be stupid.
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And that's also taking into account WCW was beating WWF at the time. TNA at the moment, is a country mile behind WWE and nowhere near them, so yeah it's no big plan. At this rate, WWE don't have to plan for anything with TNA, the gap's so big, it would be stupid.
Yeah completely. Vince is fully aware that about the best publicity that TNA could get right now would be the WWE starting to take shots at them. There's no campaign, no anti TNA anything from the WWE right now really.

 

TNA I'm sure would love for WWE to start devoting tv time to bashing TNA but it's not going to happen any time soon. TNA should concentrate on the fact that they've just put on the best Pay Per View that American audiences have seen all year and in the process taken a very small little pop at the WWE to make them look stupid with the footage they aired, something which they played to perfection. The Vince/HHH skits were great fun, and when they aired the footage the idea of going with the angle that "Now why would anyone wanna sue TNA for something like that?" worked really well.

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TNA needs to focus on the home grown talent more and need to put them over against the older stars.
To be fair with the exception of that ridiculous bringing in of Savage and the end of the 6 man at Turning Point that's exactly what they are doing. They gave Sabin and Williams the time to wow the crowd and produce what Styles and Williams should have at the previous PPV, they continued Monty's push and made him look like gold, they had Hardy & Styles fight off the KOW and loko strong for most of their match (although them relying on Savage to come out and save the day was crap), and they gave the main event to AMW and Triple X to produce the match of the year. That is focusing on home grown talent and putting them over against the older stars.

 

Sure they had DDP go over Raven but both thoes guys are older stars and in all honesty the shape that DDP looked in I love him in TNA right now. Keep him there. Unlike Savage he can still go and put on an excellent match and he still looks like a wrestler instead of a balding skinny little weed. Savage was a mistake, but that ones over. And Nash and Hall have actualyl made some interesting tv and in the end will lose out to the youngsters that they are facing off against so I don't really see that it's a problem.

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Styles and Petey did well at their match.A.J. dominated it though.

 

To be fair with the exception of that ridiculous bringing in of Savage and the end of the 6 man at Turning Point that's exactly what they are doing. They gave Sabin and Williams the time to wow the crowd and produce what Styles and Williams should have at the previous PPV, they continued Monty's push and made him look like gold, they had Hardy & Styles fight off the KOW and loko strong for most of their match (although them relying on Savage to come out and save the day was crap), and they gave the main event to AMW and Triple X to produce the match of the year. That is focusing on home grown talent and putting them over against the older stars.

 

Sure they had DDP go over Raven but both thoes guys are older stars and in all honesty the shape that DDP looked in I love him in TNA right now. Keep him there. Unlike Savage he can still go and put on an excellent match and he still looks like a wrestler instead of a balding skinny little weed. Savage was a mistake, but that ones over. And Nash and Hall have actualyl made some interesting tv and in the end will lose out to the youngsters that they are facing off against so I don't really see that it's a problem.

 

Thanks to Scott holding on to A.J. Petey was able to slip in the Canadian Destroyer from the top rope.Other than that A.J. basically had the match won. I agree TNA is indeed getting better.But to have somebody like Savage getting a title shot right away isnt good.

 

TNA is on the rise.Good for them.

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I noticed this, and starting laughing so hard, but had no idea it was a WWE plant.

 

The sign was:

 

TOTAL

NONSTOP

CRAP

 

If it indeed was, God bless Vince McMahon :worship

 

I love the way he thinks its funny when the Turning point PPV was better than pretty much every PPV WWE have put on this year. 6 Sides of Steel=Best Match of the year if nto ever, and Sabin vs Williams best one on one wrestling match of the year bar none.

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Having watched it I have to say that their however better ppv's the WWE has put out this year...

 

But they where good matches. But notice how its TNA's names that are pulling out the stops and not the useless fossils they have brought in to overshadow them...

 

Here's a list of things TNA has to do to stop looking like a poor WCW clone...

 

1.Get the strap off Jarrett..

2.Sack Hall and Nash...

3.Have Jeff Hardy get jobbed out then leave...

4.Have DDP put somebody over then have him as a manager...

5.Stop inviting Hogan and Luger to tapings...

 

and finally...

 

Give the title to Styles, Monty or Harris...

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Having watched it I have to say that their however better ppv's the WWE has put out this year...
Personally I think it's the US PPV of the year but each to their own. I haven't seen every WWE PPV this year but I've seen most and I've seen nothing as good as Turning Point.

 

The filler matches, NYC Vs Kenney & Badd, 3LK Vs Team Canada, and Garza, Siaki & Dutt Vs Kash, Shane & Kazarian weren't bad, in fact the latter was bloody good. Some nice psychology to it for a throwaway six man too. They made me care about Dutt as they worked over his arm, something I rarely do as I think the guy stinks.

 

Then you had Abyss and Monty, pulling out a hard hitting stiff as hell match that made Monty look like gold. DDP and Raven was much better than I expected, DDP looked in great shape and the two guys pulled out a really good match.

 

The WWE footage was fun, and the MacDaddy and HHH things throughout were ammusing. I marked out big style for the smallest midget I've ever seen kicking Vince inthe balls. They handled it all much better than I thought they would and I loved Mike Tenay "now why would the WWE want to sue us over something as small as that? It's not like we drove a tank up to where they were filming Raw or anything".

 

Sabin Vs Williams was awesome, absolutely awesome. The finish was weak but did its job in making people hate Williams and d'Amore and if it's followed up with some sort of rematch where there's no interference, prehaps in a cage to prevent it, then it's all good.

 

The 6 man tag involving Styles and Hardy against the KOW was actually really good right up to the point where Savage came in. He looked awful, wrestled awfully, and stole the thunder of Styles and Hardy, who had looked great all match.

 

And then, 6 sides of steel. An excellently built up feud over a large ammount of time with four great workers pulling out all the stops. Best Match Ever? No. But any match that gets the crowd chanting best match ever has to be a bit special. The guys put it all on the line and pulled out something really special.

 

I've not seen the WWE do anything as good as that PPV all year.

 

1.Get the strap off Jarrett..

2.Sack Hall and Nash...

3.Have Jeff Hardy get jobbed out then leave...

4.Have DDP put somebody over then have him as a manager...

5.Stop inviting Hogan and Luger to tapings...

1. Agreed, but make sure they do it right.

2. Tosh. They've made the TV interesting, played their parts well, been happy to work with guys like Hardy and Styles and let those two kick their asses. Keep them, they're doing nothing wrong right now.

3. Not much point in jobbing Hardy out, although I'd agree with having him leave. He played his part at Turning Point really well and he worked well with Styles making that 6 man quite an entertaining match. Jeff was also carried to a good match with the ladder by Jarrett. To be honest I'm no Hardy fan but I don't see him being so bad that he's not good enough to work TNA shows. He's been ok in his last few big matches so I'd keep him too.

4. DDP looked in great shape in his match with Raven. He can talk, and by the looks of it still work very very good matches. That was the best match Raven has put on in ages and the programme with him and Page is shaping up nicely. DDP more than any other veteran they'v signed should get pushed and not just jobbed out. Sure he should lose some matches, and put some guys over, but no more so than anyone else. Anyone who saw the Raven match should have been glad to see him stlil able to work that well and want him to remain part of the active roster. He's too big to be a TNA manager, he makes most of their wrestlers look too small.

5. Agreed about Luger, not agreed about Hogan. Depends how they want to use him but his name value can attract fans to TNA. Once they get there attracted by Hogan, they'll see the likes of Styles, AMW, Skipper, Daniels, Williams, Sabin etc and realise that the product has some great talent.

 

The title will go to Monty or Styles at some point I'd imagine. To be honest I don't see why people are so keen to get the belt on Styles. He's just as over without it as he is with it and we've all seen him as champion not that long ago anyway. Give it to someone fresh like they did with Killings in the early shows. Monty would make sense despite people's reservations about him.

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Hall and Nash look ancient and haggered in both apperance and work rate. They are on big salaries that TNA cannot keep on shelling out for.

 

But I maybe should rephrase how I put it... Have Hall and Nash put over Monty and Harris and AJ then have them upper card for a while before they retire. They can build draws but not draw themshelves....

 

I'm not saying that DDP should be jobbed out either. But I think he should put some of the younger parts of the roster over whilst remaining a upper midcard threat to other names before he takes a back seat.

 

DDP is a great planner and would make a great road agent in that respect and maybe a good commentator... He did do the job to start with in WCW you know.

 

Hardy has to be carried but is still to sloppy and will turn into a liabilty. Unless TNA get a mid card belt (just one mind, they don't need to go WWE 2002 title mad) and have Hardy as a like Arn Anderson type role (a threat and a name who boosted people up, Arn was great at it in the early 1990's with the WCW/NWA TV title). But if that doesn't happen then do two things...

 

a)Get him a regular solid tag partner and use him there

or

b)Put Sabin, Williams and Shane over then leave...

 

As for the title picture? Styles is your standard, talented and over transitional champ like Sandman was in ECW (although he had minimal talent) and also what Rock became at the end of his WWE title reigns....

 

Brown and Harris are your main bets. Harris as a heel and Monty as the loveable and charismatic babyface....

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Hall and Nash are what they are. Right now they talk well, bring some interest to the shows, and play their roles well. No they aren't superb in the ring but when you're in a six man tag, or you're Hall wrestling Styles, it doesn't matter. They are being used fine, not on half as much money as people make out, and TNA can afford to keep them there. Firing them right now would be a dumb move. Are they the future of the company? Of course not, but they can play a part in building that future. Having them there, and eventually losing their little KOW feud to Hardy, Styles, and somebody like Brown (which is how this is all going to end up) is using them perfectly.

 

DDP has too much to offer in an in ring role right now to be an announcer or a manager. As a manager he just wouldn't work in TNA anyway. Even Vince Russo made Styles look small so imagine what DDP as someone's manager would make Styles look. DDP is still really good in the ring, and a decent talker, and way over with the fans right now. Why, looking at all of that, would you not want him as an active worker?

 

Hardy isn't the best worker they have, but he's not the worst either. Why drop him? His matches are solid enough without being special and he attracts some interest from the screaming little girlie fans. And, you say he was pulled to some good matches recently. He was in a six man tag involving Savage, Hall, and Nash, was on the same team as Styles, so who exactly was dragging a good match out of him? No Hardy isn't a very good worker but he has a place on the TNA roster.

 

Styles may well be your standard transitional champ but my point is that he's had that transitional title run just before Jarrett became Champ again. Why do that again? Why give the belt to Styles before giving it to Brown or Harris? It makes little sense when you can have Jarrett put one of them over clean which would do more for them than a win over Styles would.

 

Harris as a heel is a must though at some point. AMW need to split and Harris needs to become a real badass dominant heel. It's definitely the direction they need to go with him.

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Hardy isn't the best worker they have, but he's not the worst either. Why drop him? His matches are solid enough without being special and he attracts some interest from the screaming little girlie fans. And, you say he was pulled to some good matches recently. He was in a six man tag involving Savage, Hall, and Nash, was on the same team as Styles, so who exactly was dragging a good match out of him? No Hardy isn't a very good worker but he has a place on the TNA roster.

 

:eek :( Saddening really, I stil lbelieve Hardy should get out of TNA because plain and simple he sucks. he puts other people at risk by still being hooked on drugs and wrestling. I say wrestling I mean flipping because as JJ said in the TP opening promo "He damn sure can't wrestle".

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He doesn't put anyone at risk by using drugs and wrestling. Is he using at the same time as he's wrestling? I mean, I watched Turning Point and believe me, he didn't look like he was coked off his face to me.

 

I'm not condoning his drug use, nor am I condemning it. That's up to him, it's his life. But lets not pretend that what he puts into his body when he's not wrestling is putting people's lives at risk in the ring. It's not.

 

The only thing that could put people in danger is his lack of wrestling ability and not knowing how to execute a move properly. To be honest with the moves he has in his arsenal there's nothing there that he's likely to injure anyone with.

 

The fans are back behind him at the moment, thanks to him being involved with the KOW angle on the opposing side, the teenage audience still love him to bits, and his matches and even his mic work while not being out of this world have been solid enough for him to keep his place.

 

Not every single wrestler on a promotion's roster needs to be Chris Benoit standard in the ring and the Rock standard on the mic. Nobody is, and nobody needs to be. Hardy does what he does well enough at the moment.

 

If you've actually been watching his last few big matches what exactly has he done so badly that he should be released? His last two PPV matches have been good and his work on the weekly tv shows has been decent enough.

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Alright then, don't get rid of him then, but have him in a role after this KOW fued where he will continue to contribute...

 

Like I said before, have him as a big name in the tag divison or the upper card holding and contending a new mid card title that is designed to groom new stars...

 

I'm not saying do this straight away, oh no, I mean after the likes of Harris, Brown and others are established in the mainevent...

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