K.J Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 My 23 would be. GK David James David Seaman Nigel Martyn Def Gary Neville Phil Neville Sol Campbell Rio Ferdinand John Terry Jonathan Woodgate Ashley Cole Wayne Bridge Mid David Beckham Steven Gerrard Paul Scholes Nicky Butt Joe Cole Frank Lampard jr Lee Bowyer Michael Carrick Att Michael Owen Darius Vassel Emile Heskey Kevin Phillips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inno Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 Gotta love the Vassel bandwagon that's rolling now after one good game... Nigel Martyn Richard Wright David James Rio Ferdinand Sol Campbell Ledley King Danny Mills Wayne Bridge Ashley Cole Gareth Southgate Steven Gerrard David Beckham Paul Scholes Frank Lampard David Dunn Nicky Butt Joe Cole Keiron Dyer Michael Owen Emile Heskey Alan Smith James Beattie Andy Cole I only picked this squad because I don't know the names of any non-league players :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.J Posted February 17, 2002 Author Share Posted February 17, 2002 Originally posted by Dreamer Gotta love the Vassel bandwagon that's rolling now after one good game... Yeah, but he is a good player and is perfect like for like cover for Michael Owen, thats why i'd take him. Kieron Dyer if fit I woud take in place of Carrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crippler Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 Goalkeepers David James David Seaman Nigel Martyn Defenders Gary Neville Graeme Le Saux Sol Campbell Gareth Southgate Martin Keown Ashley Cole John Terry Phil Neville Midfielders David Beckham Paul Scholes Kieron Dyer Steven Gerrard Michael Carrick Joe Cole Nicky Butt Steve McManaman Attackers Michael Owen Teddy Sheringham Emile Heskey Robbie Fowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampiro Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 my 23: Goalkeepers: David James Nigel Martyn Richard Wright Defenders: Gary Neville Phil Neville Sol Campbell Gareth Southgate Greame Le Saux Ashley Cole Martin Keown Jonny Woodgate Midfielders: David Beckham Stevie Gerrard Paul Scholes Nicky Butt Steve McManaman Lee Bowyer Kieron Dyer Strikers: Alan Shearer (if he decides to come back) Michael Owen Teddy Sheringham Robbie Fowler Emile Heskey Shearer Shearer Shearer! I dont think there is a need for all this fuss over Ricketts. I dont rate him at all and as for Chris Powell, well ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crippler Posted February 17, 2002 Share Posted February 17, 2002 I would have Shearer in it if he wasn't retired. Still Englands number 1 striker when he is on form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tajiri Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 I think Beattie is a far better prospect for England than Vassel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xzibitheny Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 my squad would be... GK James,Seamen,Martyn Defenders: Ferdinand. Woodgate. Terry. King Bridge Ashley Cole Mills Wes Brown Mid: Beckham Dyer bowyer scholes gerrard Carrick J.Cole Bermby forward: Vassel Owen Fowler Heskey Sheringham First team James Mills Ferdinand Woodgate A.cole Beckham Gerrard Scholes J.cole Owen Shengham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 My 23: GK Nigel Martyn David James Richard Wright Defence Gary Neville Ashley Cole Wes Brown Rio Ferdinand Wayne Bridge Gareth Southgate Midfield Paul Scholes David Beckham Steven Gerrard Steve McManaman Jamie Carragher Kieron Dyer Strikers Michael Owen Robbie Fowler Darius Vassell Michael Ricketts Emile Heskey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.J Posted February 20, 2002 Author Share Posted February 20, 2002 Although Alan Shearer may be in great form for Newcastle, I never eeeeeeeeeever want to see him in an England shirt again. He was one of our greatest strikers ofall time but in the final two years of his international career he proved he didn't have what it took at that level anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crippler Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 Did he not score the winner against Germany in what at the time was Englands first win over them in donkeys years. In his last two years at England he was still their main man when it came to big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.J Posted February 22, 2002 Author Share Posted February 22, 2002 Yeah he may well have scored the winner against Germany but it wasn't excactly a difficult chance, Beckham put it on a plate or him. Where was he in the games against Sweden? Nowhere, Shearer is a spent force at international level, he could never play alongside Michael Owen anyway and out of the two i'd definately pick Owen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crippler Posted February 22, 2002 Share Posted February 22, 2002 We must have seen a different goal then against Germany. Beckham put over a great cross but Shearer had to put all the power into the ball and it wasnt exactly from close range. It was a great header. The games against Sweden - did he not score in the first game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampiro Posted February 23, 2002 Share Posted February 23, 2002 wes brown isnt a good pick seen as hes out all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.J Posted February 24, 2002 Author Share Posted February 24, 2002 OK so Shearer scored in the first game against Sweden, but all I can remember during the entire quaifying rounds for Euro 2000 is that I was becoming increasingly frusrated by the way that first Hoddle and then Keegan kept picking Shearer. It was plain for the everyone to see that he was a spent force at international level. I cant even remember who was in our group, I think it was Sweden, Bulgaria, Poland and Luxembourg. Put the Luxembourg games aside because my Nan could have a good match against them. From what I remember Shearer went missing in the 0-0 bore draw at home to Bulgaria, in the 1-1 draw in Bulgaria, in the 0-0 draw at home to Sweden, the 0-0 draw away in Poland. Today, without Shearer I think we would have won all of those games, the only one we would have trouble with today woud be Sweden away. In the 3-1 home win against Poland which was our only decent result during the whole group, Scholes scored all 3, so if you look back over the group stage, discount the Luxembourg games, I think you'll find that Shearer's only goal was the one you mentioned, the free kick away in Sweden. Onto the Euro 2000 finals itself and his only goal was the one against Germany, in an entire European Championships campaign 2 meaningfull goals is simply not good enough, and for that reason alone I never want to see Shearer in an England shirt again, unless its in the UK Masters tournament. I thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crippler Posted February 24, 2002 Share Posted February 24, 2002 Funny how you will never find a Manchester United supporter who likes Alan Shearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.J Posted February 25, 2002 Author Share Posted February 25, 2002 Funny how as soon as I came up with a well informed argument you seem to have dropped yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crippler Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 (edited) Funny how you seem to think your argument is good when there have been flaws throughout your argument the whole way through. "Where was he against Sweden? Nowhere" I pointed out that he actually scored in that game. So you shift the goalposts and say where was he against the other teams. You say in an entire European Championships he only managed two goals. You make it sound as though England actually played a lot of matches. They played THREE matches. In which Alan Shearer scored two. Michael Owen didn't score anymore than him if I recall. You also say that you think you would have won all those games in the qualifying today. I don't think you can blame Alan Shearer for that. They had a different manager then. Keegan managed England then and since Eriksson came they have been revitalised. Edited February 25, 2002 by The Crippler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.J Posted March 1, 2002 Author Share Posted March 1, 2002 First of all none of this has anything to do with the fact that i'm a Man Utd fan. Whn I said he went missing against Sweden I meant in the Wembley match and when I said he scored 2 meaningful goals I forgot he scored a penalty in the defeat against Romania, but then again I can't possibly be expected to remember every England match from the past 4 years. Still, the fact that he scored 3 goals against decent and half decent opposition in 11 games (don't forget i'm discounting the Luxembourg games from my argument) doesn't make good reading, or does it? I do remember him scoring an overhead kick against Belgium in a friendly at the Stadium of Ligh and for the record he scored 1 goal away to Luxembourg and a hat trick in the return fixture, but then again even Steve McManaman managed two goals in that game. My main problem with Shearer is the entire Euro 2000 campaign, qualifying and finals, I just remember every game thinking Why couldn't Keegan see just how bad he was playing, the answer is because Keegan is a very bad coach. Shearer wasn't the only one, Tony Adams, Paul Ince, Graeme Le Saux, David Batty were al given repeated chances by Keegan even though they were well past their best. Maybe with Keegan gone and Eriksson in Shearer could do a job for Engand like he did under Venables and Hoddle. But my personal opinion is that at International level, he's had his day, he knows it too and now it's time to look towards the future and the huge amounts of young talent coming through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRM Posted March 1, 2002 Share Posted March 1, 2002 Shearer still a far better pick than andy cole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayGray Posted March 3, 2002 Share Posted March 3, 2002 My 23 would be as follows: - GK David Seaman David James Richard Wright Defence Gary Neville Ashley Cole Sol Campbell Rio Ferdinand Wes Brown Dean Richards Jonathan Woodgate Wayne Bridge Midfield Paul Scholes David Beckham Steven Gerrard Michael Carrick David Dunn Steve McManaman Strikers Michael Owen Robbie Fowler Emile Heskey Darius Vassell Teddy Sheringham Andrew Cole or Kevin Phillips Gray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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