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A Photo - anything off rotten.com

An Animal - wasps

An Event - events themselves aren't evil, just the perspective put on them by humans

A Season - peri peri sauce from nandos, it's vile stuff

A Person - all people are equally capable of evil, as it is a human invention. we invent our own evil. so enough of the philosophising already, I know. An evil person is someone who acts out of malice against others. There are too many of these people to name, some of them famous, some of them not.

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A Photo - That one in the last issue of Zoo Weekly, where the rabbit is lying there dead with all its insides lying out. I nearly threw up when I seen it. :sick

An Animal - Snakes scare the shit out of me!

An Event - Has to be 9/11

A Season - Autumn, all those leaves dying :(

A Person - Gotta be Bin Laden

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Interesting you say Hitler. We were doing about him just today in History. Amazing how intelligent he really was. It's a shame some of his idealistics didn't get used in future generations.

 

If he retired fomr politics in 1938 (I think), he would probably be remembered as a great for turning Germany's fortunes around. Pity he carried on.

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If he retired fomr politics in 1938 (I think)' date=' he would probably be remembered as a great for turning Germany's fortunes around. Pity he carried on.[/quote']

 

If only he hadnt got into politics. If he'd got that place in that art college thing, then maybe history would have been so different. Did you know his real surname was SchickelGruber? lol or something like that anyway. Twisted deranged guy

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I think Hitler's problem was he had reasonable ideas (don't let econimoc migrants take over your country and ruin it for the people who built it), but went about them in completely the wrong way (gassing millions of people) and selected them based on incorrect criteria (race).

 

His theory was sound though - any country which does well for itself will attract spongers and people who have less who will want to share in your wealth when they have done nothing to help create it. They don't deserve it, and have no right to it.

 

We need to implement the theory without the methods.

 

Ed

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You'd choose Adolf Hitler ahead of Tony Blair? Are you kidding me? OK' date=' you might not like the Labour Party but isn't that a bit extreme? I take it you're not Jewish.[/quote']

No I'm not. I'm atheist. And no I don't think it's extreme. I think as Ed said, his concepts were sound. It's just his actual delivery.

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Speaking of Hitler, can someone maybe answer something for me? I was sat watching the news with my mother, maybe two or three weeks ago, when this woman came out of a court to address the press. She was talking about something I think to do with forensics, when she named the medical expert or whatever they were. I turned to my mother and said with some astonishment, 'what did she say?'. She looked at me hlaf laughing and said, 'she didn't say Paul Heil Hitler!'. I was SURE that was what she had said, but even though my mother said she couldn't have said that, she said the name without me having to say it first, so she MUST have either said exactly that or something very similar. Can anyone confirm whether or not there is a guy called Paul Heilhitler (maybe it could be spelt differently)?! If there is, and anyone can provide any links to anything mentioning his name, that would really make my day!

 

Hitler did have some good ideas in terms of the economy in Germany, plus he had a charisma about him to gain public support (besides having the crap beaten out of his political opponents). He actually invented Volkswagen as well (translated means 'people's car'). Fair enough, it went horribly wrong, but to attempt to deny that he had some good ideas in the first place is just being stubborn in the face of pure fact. Other dictators came to power in the first place through similar ideas, especially where they had economic solutions at hand for their country (Salazar in Portugal is a good example of that).

 

I also think Hitler had some great ideas about uniforms (albeit a lot of the Third Reich ideas were borrowed from the Roman Empire) - the Germans looked way cooler than the Allies! Lemmy told it like it was when he was asked if he was a Nazi because of some of the clothes he wore. After saying that he wasn't and adding that his girlfriend was actually black, Lemmy put it brilliantly when he said, 'I'm not a Nazi - they just made the best gear'!

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No I'm not. I'm atheist. And no I don't think it's extreme. I think as Ed said' date=' his concepts were sound. It's just his actual delivery.[/quote']

 

I'm sorry but this is inane. You can't just say 'Hitlers concepts were good so i'd have him ahead of Tony Blair'. Politicians should be judged on how they put their concepts into action, not on what they intended to do. That is just silly.

 

Jews needlessly slaughtered by Blair's regime = 0

Jews needlessly slaughtered by Hitler's regime = Several million

Homosexuals needlessly slaughtered by Blairs regime = 0

Homosexuals needlessly slaughtered by Hitlers regime = thousands

Cripples needlessly slaughtered by Blair's regime = 0

Cripples needlessly slaughtered by Hitlers regime = thousands

Countries invaded by Blair's regime = 1

Countries invaded by Hitler's regime = several

 

Im sorry but how can you put Hitler ahead of Blair when arguably the worst thing to ever happen to human life in the history of the world happened during his reign? Personally I think you saying you would rather have Hitler ahead of Blair is an insult to our troops who died because of that man's plans to invade us.

 

Fair enough if you think Hitlers ideas were good, personally I disagree strongly but thats your view. You've obviously read a book about the nazi party from 1933 - 1939, or maybe you watched one of the hundreds of Nazi documentaries that '5' put out while you were waiting for porno. But to then say he was good for Germany or better than Tony Blair is unbelievable. Actually, his ideas were fabulous though! I especially liked the one about world domination. What about the wiping out of the Jews? Another gem. Oh, and then there was the one about the human breeding camps. Yup, that Hitler was much better than Tony Blair. Democracy, what a joke.

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Actually I don't watch porno's on 5, because their pornos suck. All my porn is on the internet, and has no bearing to Hitler :)

 

And for the record, I have studied Hitler for the past three years in History in depth (more in depth than we were supposed to actually).

 

And you don't agree with my point of view, thats fair enough. You obviously have strong views the other way. But I don't particularly like Blair, and I liked a lot of ideas Hitler had. Not to mention he was a much more forceful and eventful leader than Blair. When Hitler said he'd do something, he did it (well, except win the war). And he was smart enough to lead Germany out of the Treaty of Versailles (which Germany got screwed with) and screw everyone who got in his way. Thats the kinda guy I like - ruthless. If only Blair could stand up for himself every so often instead of doing whats best for Bush and his grand plans for taking over the world.

 

And I agree with Ed on this point: "any country which does well for itself will attract spongers and people who have less who will want to share in your wealth when they have done nothing to help create it. They don't deserve it, and have no right to it."

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Ok, I've thought briefly about the bold bit I added from Ed and I gotta ask something cas it's bugging me:

 

Is this in the sense of asylum seekers coming here and sponging off us, or are we also including people who come here legally and get a job? Because they'd be helping to keep economy levels up, would they not?

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Draven, if you are studying Hitler indepth I suggest you read books by Ian Kershaw. Books on the Hitler Myth will blow your hair back. Kershaw basically puts forward the idea that Hitler wasn't as in control of the Nazi party as it had previously been believed. He puts forward a great argument as great historians tend to do.
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